Sometimes, it just doesn’t work out. When things are shiny and new you think you’re made for each other, but after a couple dates, you begin to reconsider.
Last weekend, the relationship fell flat on its face.
My marriage?
No.
My Patagonia Rock Grip wading boots.
No Better Than The Rest
Patagonia’s Rock Grip wading boots combine a more aggressive sole pattern than their sticky Riverwalker boots with a stiffer, more protective boot design.

More protective uppers; less grippy soles...
I was hoping that combination of goodies would create what I’ll call the Underground’s Ultimate Wading Boot.
But after three trips on the Rogue and Upper Sacramento — the latter flowing high enough that it feels like the river’s constantly pushing you around — I’m throwing in the towel.
Or, more accurately, screwing in the studs.
In a word, the stud-free grip of the rubber soles was untenable.
Last weekend, I needed help from Wayne Eng just to climb out of the river on a sloping rock bank. On the Rogue, I felt like I was on skates, and waded with less assurance than I can ever remember experiencing on that river.
Direct comparisons are difficult, but I’d suggest the Rock Grip soles were less grippy than my beloved Riverwalker soles — or even the straight rubber soles on the Simms and Korkers wading boots I tested (the Orvis boots came with metal studs installed).
I’m going to screw in the metal studs that Patagonia wisely included with the Rock Grip boots (no extra $$), and because studs represent what I’ll call “leveling technology,” I expect they’ll grip OK.
Still, they probably won’t adhere like the bladed metal studs that come with the Orvis wading boots — the winners from my earlier rubber soled boot test.
As the Rock Grip boots come out of the box, they’d function as an acceptable backcountry boot (they’re still lightweight and comfortable), though I’d suggest buying the lighter, less-expensive Riverwalker boots for small stream/backcountry use.
In truth, if all I ever fished were the small meadow and freestone streams I love so much, I’d buy a pair of the Patagonia Riverkeepers and never look back.
Because I don’t do that, I’m going to stud the Rock Grip boots (disclosure: I paid for these puppies), and see what comes next.
Regular readers know I like my Patagonia gear a lot (you’ll pry my Nano Puff jacket out of my coffin), but in a difficult wading environment, their unstudded Rock Grip wading boots grip poorly enough that I won’t go near a freestone river without the studs already installed.
In what amounts to a several-years-long rubber sole test, I still prefer rubber soles for all sorts of reasons (longevity, dryland performance, etc), but realize they require metal studs whenever the wading gets even a little difficult.
See you (staggering around) the river, Tom Chandler.




























thanks Tom…I have been waiting for this review. I need to buy (this week) another pair of boots, I like the Orvis boots I have had in the past (felt) and tried the Chotas (felt with studs) but both are worn out…Dave Robets has allowed me to try some of his a time or two and I will not have a (new) Simms rubber boot on my feet.
Looks like (With the help of Montana State politicans) I’m going back to studded felt,
and I will clean them properly.
samistopdog(Quote)
Thanks for the review. I’m in the market for wading shoes and this was very helpful.
Roger Bird(Quote)
I’ve been wearing the Orvis Riverguards for a year now. As you indicated they come with Studs. They’ve been reliable footing in most situations and I haven’t found them dramatically less grippy than felt though there’s some loss. I added a few extra studs to improve the gripping “blind spots”.
Without the studs, I wouldn’t trust any rubber sole.
Steve Z(Quote)
The Orvis not only come with studs, they come with the Mother of All Studs. I’m thinking of buying a pair that fit me (the test pair are a full size too large…
Tom Chandler(Quote)
I screwed ten 1/4″ x 1/2″ sheet metal screws into the soles of my first generation Weinbrenner rubber soles. This transformed them from Death Shoes from Hell into adequate and pretty secure feeling wading boots. Cost me a buck sixty.
fishskicanoe(Quote)
I waded the McCloud the other day in my studless Teva river flops (forgot my boots and waders) and they worked great, the flex let them mold to the rocks and grip better — which says alot about the quest/claims for the ultimate wading boot rubber…
Andy Marx(Quote)
I think that’s one of the reasons I like the old Riverwalker soft rubber soles. The Vibram soles (and apparently the Rock Grip soles by Patagonia) are much stiffer, so studs are required…
Tom Chandler(Quote)
Well, that’s interesting. I have been able to use these in mud, snow, pine needle covered banks and rocks on the Snake, Upper Green, Big Hole, Bitterroot and Beaverhead this spring and have had no problems. I will say I haven’t hit the summer slick rocks yet, but so far I would take these over felts for the conditions encountered so far. Maybe a different rubber – or just different conditions?
Taku(Quote)
They’ve been great on the soft stuff (wore them on a “soft” small stream yesterday and they were great), but in the river which is mostly walking on rocks, they’re really awful. At least that’s been my experience.
Tom Chandler(Quote)
Tom – I just got back from trying out my brand new Riverwalkers with Rockgrip soles on the USac. I had high hopes, but my experience was the same as yours. Great out of the water, but total skate as soon as I stepped in the water. I tried to order studs (the Riverwalkers don’t come with them) but was told by Patagonia that they were currently out of them. Might try the Simms studs.
Bummer!
Gregg(Quote)
I have to apologize — I didn’t realize they were ditching the old Riverwalker soles for the new Rock Grip soles (just learned that at Bob Grace’s shop yesterday).
Oy vey. In the message below, Andy suggests better grip with the aluminum studs, so if you’re looking…
Tom Chandler(Quote)
I have a pair of boots with Streamtread rubber. Put the Simms tungsten Hard Bites on one boot and their aluminum studs on the other. The aluminum is WAY more grippy on all surfaces I’ve waded over the past 3 months. No skating on slick granite and they smear onto slimy boulders (yes, they leave minuscule silver scratch marks, but nothing like the old Stream Cleats – you have to look for the marks to see them).
This week, I’m pulling the tungsten and going aluminum on both feet. They are obviously wearing more quickly than the tungsten, but cost significantly less so it will probably be a wash by the end of the season. Even if they cost the same out of the box – still heck of a lot cheaper than a lost fly box or broken rod because of a fall.
Ralph C(Quote)
Those Simms cleats are all pretty expensive (those star cleat were like $40, right?), but it makes sense; aluminum galls so easily and those old galosh-style cleat you’d wear steelheading were aluminum (and noisy).
Have you tried the $9/bag cleats at Ted Fay (can’t remember the brand name)? He swears they grip better than the standard Simms screws.
Tom Chandler(Quote)
The Aluminum stars are $30.00 for 14. I only use 4 on each boot so they aren’t unbearably expensive. Any more stars than that and they hold me off the rubber – I think the best grip is when the aluminum AND the rubber are in contact at the same time. The more ground down the cleats, the better the grip – or so it seems to me.
I’m learning that the boots with screw in cleats are not as convertible as you might think (or at least I thought). Once grit clogs the Phillips slots you pretty much have to strip the heads to get them off. At this very moment I am trying to unscrew the tungsten stars and they are a PITA. Never have to worry about them falling out though.
Haven’t seen the $9 Bag-o-Cleats.
Question- have any good tips on how to get burs and foxtails out of Chaco Velcro? I tried soaking them in muriatic acid overnight. Melted all the burrs, but melted the Velcro too.
Ralph C(Quote)
Tom – No apology necessary. I knew that I was getting the Rock grip soles – figured that if Patagonia replaced old sticky rubber soles with them, they must be better.
Ralph – Thanks for the tip on the aluminum. I had bought the Hard bite star cleats (not yet installed) precisely because I agree with you that the best grip is probably a combination of rubber and metal and the Stars have a lower profile than the aluminum. Have you tried grinding down the cleat mounting nubs on the Rock grip soles so as to recess the aluminum cleats a little more? Also, what locations did you choose for your four cleats? Tom’s research made it seem like location was pretty important.
Gregg(Quote)
The past couple of days I’ve been experimenting with stud location. I’m down to three aluminum cleats (one under the heel, one under the joint of the big toe and the last at the ball of the foot just below little toe). Highly subjective, unscientific analysis based on skating down greasy slabs with various stud numbers, configurations, and BOB (beers on board) find this the winner in terms of gription and minimal number of cleats. 4 or 5 cleats didn’t appreciable increase traction on snot, and tended to skate more on slick dry granite than did just 3 cleats.
Ralph C(Quote)
here are my thoughts on the same http://blog.thefin.com/thefincom/2011/07/patagonia-rock-grip-shoes.html
Jason Puris(Quote)
Thanks for the pointer and the report. Unfortunately, Typepad won’t let me leave a comment on your site (this happens a *lot* with Typepad sites), where I was going to suggest that swapping soles out on the Korkers wasn’t something I’d want to do 2-3 times on a trip. It’s kind of a wrestling match.
And that I’ll bet pointed metal studs are probably more effective in your situation than they are in a freestone stream environment, where skating on the rocks is probably a bigger problem than sliding on seaweed.
Good luck staying upright…
Tom Chandler(Quote)
Of course, I failed to mention that last Saturday, after moving spots. I jumped up onto a rock and slid right off as the insert on my Korker must have fallen out somewhere during the move.
Jason(Quote)
you’re all fools if you think you’ll find a better boot. put the studs in and get after it. no straight rubber soled boots are good in rocky wading. if you’re trying to get away from felt soles, which is something the industry is leaning towards, then these boots with studs are superior to any other boot you will find. wait for patagonia’s next genius design to come out and you’ll be even happier, but for now, rock the rock grips with studs.
patagonia till i die(Quote)
Yes, all of us who pointed out that the new Rock Grip sole is a huge step backwards in stickiness are fools, and you alone got it right.
Tom Chandler(Quote)
Wow! P, rarely do I ever see such product loyalty, maybe Harley devotees. I do like Patagonia’s overall product line, recycle stuff, and do buy their boots, however, they are a bit pricey don’t you think? tw
Waterouzel(Quote)