Popular Mechanics Picks Dumb "Affordable" Fly Fishing Outfit: We Give You Stuff to Get It Right

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Popular Mechanics magazine - the same mokes who promised us personal hovercraft, "smart" houses and unlimited fusion power when we were kids - do for fly fishing gear what they did for personal transportation, which is to say they got it mostly wrong when they picked the "Best" and "Most Affordable" fly fishing gear.
 
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Popular Mechanics magazine - the same mokes who promised us personal hovercraft, "smart" houses and unlimited fusion power when we were kids - do for fly fishing gear what they did for personal transportation, which is to say they got it mostly wrong when they picked the "Best" and "Most Affordable" fly fishing gear.

The Underground would never suggest PM would pick a product based on anything but kickbacks quantitative data, but we gotta ask: do novice freshwater anglers really need to pair a $150 fly rod with Sage's $325 carbon fiber fly reel? Why?

"When fighting a fish, the reel is your most important weapon, and one thing worth splurging on. Not only did we find this carbon-fiber reel to be extremely light and durable, but dialing its drag up and down was effortless, making it easy to tire out our catches before reeling them in."

Oh. See, we thought common sense would be an angler's "most important weapon" when fighting freshwater fish.


We also have questions about the $65 fly line, and the photo itself (click here to see it), which seems to show the fly line coming off the top of the reel, suggesting the reel's on the rod backwards. (No wonder Popular Mechanics could never get the H2O-powered jet engine off the ground).


Maybe I'm just being cranky but then, I'm still not seeing the shadows from all those anti-gravity backpacks flying overhead as people go to work in the morning (and yes, I believe I've been emotionally scarred all these years because of it).

Read More The Underground Picks the Dozen Best Fly Rods of All Time Period


Still, in adversity, the Underground sees opportunity.

Let's crowdsource a little, and get it right where Popular Mechanics got it wrong:

What would be your choice for the bestest, most-affordable fly reel for the novice angler's trout outfit - something that would work with a freshwater-weight St. Croix Imperial fly rod?

I've got one firmly in mind, but we'll let the wisdom of the crowds prevail.

Leave suggestion, and you're automatically entered in a drawing to win a copy of Steve Apple's Fishizzle DVD
- the percursor to his about-to-be-released "Hustle && Fish" DVD, which we'll be reviewing shortly (disclosure: Apple sent me several copies of Fishizzle and I'm giving them away because I like the guy and think his work is interesting).

See you in your personal jet car, Tom Chandler.

 

 
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This is a small town with a big heart, a veritable fisherman’s paradise. Located near the fish-filled Madison River, and surrounded by the waters of Ennis Lake, the Ruby River, Hebgen ... moreLake, Quake Lake, Henry’s Lake, the Big Hole River and scores of smaller streams, the town boasts what many consider the best trout fishing in the world. As well known for its wranglers as its anglers, Ennis has succeeded in maintaining the look and feel of its original, gold town roots. Warm and hospitable, the area offers a wide variety of accommodations ranging from simple campsites, rustic motels and gracious hotels, to full-service, luxury resorts. Fly shops are numerous, stocked by local experts ready to advise and assist, while guides can be booked for trips throughout the area.

Boredom is the only thing unavailable in Ennis. Throughout the summer season the city hosts a series of events, including its renowned 4th of July Celebration Parade and a genuine, old-fashioned rodeo. In August, fly-fishing luminaries from around the US, flock to Montana to compete in the Madison Fly Fishing Festival. Athletes also find their way to Ennis to compete in the city’s Madison Trifecta, two shorter races followed by a full Marathon at 9000 feet, the highest elevation run in America. For the true sportsman, October falls in with the annual Hunter’s Feed. What’s caught, typically elk, moose deer, pheasant and bobcat, gets cooked on the streets and served up to hungry spectators.

Flanked by three grand mountain ranges, The Tobacco Root, Gravelly and Madison, Ennis is scenic and entertaining – truly an authentic, fly fisher’s haven.
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Jackson is the ideal hub for exploring the Snake River, a surging, full spirited river that provides a direct connection between Yellowstone National Park and Grand Teton National ... morePark. The setting is breathtakingly beautiful – jagged peaks jutting into the sky while the river and its maze of channels and tributaries “snake” their way through the verdant, lush valley. Important to early explorers seeking passage west, the Pacific and Atlantic Creeks reach the Continental Divide at Two Ocean Pass near Jackson and part ways. The Atlantic Creek turns east, merges into the Yellowstone River and eventually flows into the Missouri while the Pacific Creek turns west and merges into the Snake, becoming the largest tributary of the Columbia, eventually reaching the ocean.

Known for its own unique trout, the Snake River finespotted cutthroat can only be found in the waters around the Jackson Hole valley. Considered by experts to have once been the only trout species in the Western interior, it has evolved into 14 different subspecies. To this day, its native range is limited to the upper Snake from Heart Lake to the Palisades Reservoir. Despite the finespotted’s hearty, undiscerning appetite and a seeming willingness to eat just about anything, experienced anglers view this fish as the most aggressive, hardest fighting trout to snare. As a result, when you catch one you earn major bragging rights. 

The most heavily fished areas of the Snake’s run through western Wyoming are the 35 miles in the park between Jackson Dam and the 17 remaining miles flowing through Jackson Hole. This section of the river is ranked as one of the best dry-fly streams in the West. Snake enthusiasts recommend floating the river although newcomers are advised to only go with a guide and veterans are reminded to exercise caution, as the water can be turbulent and unpredictable. Should you decide to wade, be mindful of swift currents along undercut banks and stick to quiet, shallow river sections and side channels. Great stream fishing can be found at Gros Ventre River and Flat Creek.
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Maclean’s famous story, A River Runs Through It, is set on the now famous Blackfoot River. Despite this, Robert Redford’s 1992 movie version was largely filmed on the Gallatin as he ... morefelt the scenery and fishing were more cinematic. The river originates high in the mountains of the Gallatin Range inside Yellowstone National Park and flows for 115 miles until it intersects with the beginning of the Missouri River at Three Forks. Inside the Park, where it runs for more than 25 miles, floating is not allowed and there are restrictions on fishing. Once it exits the park, it crosses a forty-mile expanse of mostly public lands, and runs parallel to a highway that makes it quite accessible. Because the river is narrow for much of its run, float fishing is restricted from Yellowstone Park to the confluence with the East Gallatin River. No wonder this river has a great reputation for wade fishing!

Unimpeded by dams, the river provides consistent, easily waded flows from mid-summer through mid-spring. Rainbows predominate with an estimated 1400, 8+ inch, fish per mile from the West Fork confluence at Big Sky to the mouth of the canyon. Browns are abundant accompanied by occasional cutthroats, brook trout, white fish and graylings. New to the lower most band of the river are northern pike. Never known for trophy trout, the river offers excellent dry fly fishing and beautiful surroundings. Since the fish are recognized as indiscriminate eaters, the Gallatin has come to be known as an excellent river for those learning to fly fish.

Like much of Montana, the River played a significant role in the state’s history. First explored by Native American hunters, by the early 1900’s, the area eventually became known to fur-trappers and gold prospectors. By the turn of the twentieth century logging rose in importance to the local economy as loggers famously rode the logs down river to prevent them from jamming. The towns of Bozeman and Three Forks are most closely associated with the River although given the importance of Maclean’s legacy, Livingston should also be considered as part of its history and heritage.
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The Madison River is arguably one of the best trout fishing rivers in all of southwest Montana, if not the entire world! It’s certainly the most talked over, written up and frequented ... morein the state of Montana – which is considered by some the capital of fly fishing. Anglers will find plenty of great access sites to wade or float along the Madison’s banks and reservoirs (including Hebgen Lake and Ennis Lake). Rainbows, browns, cutthroats, and more abound in this majestic fishing stream.

The Madison begins its course almost twenty miles into Yellowstone National Park. Within the Park, fishing rules apply: no live bait and catch and release only. Once outside the Park the river meanders past working ranches, stately conifer forests and cottonwood lined banks, interrupted by riffles and quiet runs that contain large rainbow and trophy brown trout. Flowing alongside Yellowstone’s West entrance road, the river enters Hebgen Lake, created by Hebgen dam, until it reaches Quake Lake, a bit downstream from the dam. At this point the river is commonly called either the Upper Madison or the Lower Madison, although in fact, they are one and the same.

Upper Madison – Quake Lake to Ennis Lake
Directly below Quake Lake the river roars into 5 long miles of Class V whitewater with steep gradients and large boulders along the way. As the rapids decline, the magic begins. For the next 53 miles, often referred to as the 50 Mile Riffle, the cold river runs north and the fish jump high. Annual runs of spawning trout make their way from Hebgen Lake, rainbows in the spring and browns in the fall. Known the world over for its “hard fighting” trout, it’s not unusual to pull a 25” brown from these upper waters. In deference to the purists and fly-fishing enthusiasts, it’s wading only from Quake Lake to Lyons Bridge. Boats may be used to access the river, but if you’re going to fish, your feet must be on the riverbed. Fortunately, the Hebgen Dam releases water throughout the year, leveling its flows and relieving it of spring runoff issues and summer shrinkage.

Lower Madison – Ennis Lakes to Three Forks
A short section of the river between Ennis Dam and the power station maintains relatively low water levels and provides wonderful opportunities for wading. Past the power station the river regains its muscle and for 7 miles winds through Bear Trap Canyon. Hiking trails offer the only entry, great for those that like to walk and seek the solitude of a designated wilderness area. Floating is permitted but requires a lengthy shuttle and the ability to work through Class III-IV whitewater. Once out of the canyon the river flows in shallow riffles until it reaches Three Forks and joins the Missouri. From Warm Springs to Greycliff, the river is easily accessible for drifters and wading.
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The Lower Madison provides memorable Montana angling adventures. The river begins below Ennis Lake, flows through the majestic Beartrap Canyon and 35 miles downstream to the Headwaters ... moreof the Missouri River. Because it is dam-controlled, the Lower Madison can be reliable when stream flows are higher in the Spring, and in late Fall when water temperatures start to drop elsewhere. Although not as well known as its upstream neighbor, The Upper Madison, the Lower is an exceptional fishery that can produce trout in attractive numbers and size. The Lower Madison is mostly known as a Brown and Rainbow trout fishery, though some cutthroats do exist in the river. Prolific hatches and large numbers of crayfish and sculpins make for very well-fed fish in The Lower Madison.
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The Gallatin is a great freestone River with lots of opportunities to catch wild trout. Located near Big Sky, Montana, it's one of those rivers you just have to cross off your bucket ... morelist. Our wade trips take you along some of the most beautiful and fishable trout stretches of the famous river. Scenes from the movie A River Runs Through It were filmed along the Gallatin river and fly fishermen will recognize the beauty and serenity from Hollywood's adaptation. Anglers can expect mostly rainbows in the 10 to 12 inch range on average and of course some opportunities for pigs as well. There are also whitefish and brown trout but they are not as common. The Gallatin is a great place to learn the basics of fly fishing.
Outfitters
Teton Troutfitters has been in Jackson Hole guiding people on fly fishing trips for 30 years. Something all those years has taught us is how to introduce the Wyoming traveler to Jackson ... moreHole's best trout waters. We are happy to schedule fishing adventures around your timetable. Fly casting lessons, and all equipment for your success, are included with every fishing trip.

As a Wyoming fishing outfitter, we are dedicated to putting you on the most productive waters available. We have utilized National Park Service permits allowing guided fishing and photography of wildlife and scenery in the 2.2 million acres of Yellowstone National Park since 1986, where we wade fish,stream fish and lake fish.

As one of only 10 motorized boat permits for Yellowstone Park, we have access to power boat fishing in uncrowded areas. We drive through Grand Teton National Park to reach Yellowstone, so bring your park pass and camera. 

We've been guiding river trips on the Snake River since 1982. These scenic float trips access over 60 miles of river, using a Bridger Teton National Forest Service permit. This is river fishing where eagles and native cutthroat trout thrive. 

With equipment provided, we will give you fishing lessons, or instruction to improve your ability. This can be a group and family activity, or a solo adventure. 

Also, we fish the whitewater when the time is right. Teton Troutfitters have the safest equipment on the whitewater section of the Snake River using self bailing rafts with custom fishing frames.

We practice catch and release, so bring your camera. 

As part of fly fishing Wyoming, we can access over 60 miles of the Green River, just 45 miles away from the Troutfitter shop. Using a Bureau of Land Management permit, we wade and river fish in sight of the Wind River Range.

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37 comments
Dang darn it.....I thought the line was meant to come from the top of the reel and I was meant to wind backwards.... Give me a strip of bamboo, some fence wire, a roll of string and some feathers and we can go fly fishn. Custom gear!!
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We'd hoped to test the new St Croix Imperial rod (against the old classic model), but St. Croix never responded. The Lamson stuff is uniformly good, and their Konic reel is a definite "best buy."
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I actually have a St Croix imperial 6 weight that was given to me. I like it. And I have it paired with a Lamson Radius which I absolutely adore. Drag is great, and it's dead silent.
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If you haven't considered it yet, check out the TFO or Temple Fork rods. The Pro Series is the way to go for the budget minded at $129 to $150. The rods fish like rods three times there price and for just over $200 you can go for the TiCR or TiCRx Series which fish like an $800 Sage or Winston. But if you are just learning, make sure you don't end with a rod which is to fast for your abilities. Granpa's ... more old bamboo rod and a nice fiber glass rod leave you lots time on you back cast to perfect your technique. I would disagree with some of the folks above that you should spend more money on your reel second, making sure you have some good line and know whether you need floating or sinking line is more important. Good luck!
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For a first reel and for the money, I would go with a Battenkill Mid Arbor. Hard to beat for the money, easy to find and will last a long time.
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I can see the sense in the cheap starter bundles for a true novice, someone who's never fished at all. I took a slightly different approach. While new to fly fishing: the technique, I already knew I enjoyed fishing: the sport in general. Being about 99% certain I would enjoy fly fishing and stick with it, I saw little point in spending money on kit I could virtually guarantee I would replace within ... more a year or less as my skills outgrew the gear. For $100, I could get a pretty good reel or be better than halfway to a pretty good rod, either of which I'll potentially use for years and years. If you're confident you'll be in the sport to stay, I'd consider this the more prudent approach.
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Buy a 4 piece rod. It will make you ally happier. I started with a few 2 piece rods before I learned the beauty of a 4 piece.
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I am a fan of the $75-100 start up kit. Your local fly shop sells these, as well as the "large stores". For $100 you can get on the water and get a line wet. If you hate it, hey it was only $100, if you love it then spending more in a season or two won't be a problem. We got started for very little, after 3 years when we wanted to upgrade our rods, we had experience enough to see what worked for us, ... more and what we liked.
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Since I am a Wannabe Flyfisherperson, my first-and only- fly rod & reel is a Cabela's combo; maybe 70 bucks at the time. Funny, PM says, "But novice anglers often make the mistake of overdoing the last part, loading up on unnecessary and expensive equipment." But then proceeds to recommend a newbie spend almost $400. That's great to support the economy but is it really necessary? I can not catch ... more fish with $70 worth of stuff as well as with $1,000 worth.
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Can't go wrong with a lower end Ross reel and your choice of say a Sage launch, Echo, TFO, St. Croix rod...spend the money you save on a good IPA.
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Crap this contest was fixed. Smithhammer is going to win. Smithhammer always wins.
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Lamson Konic or Radius G.Loomis Venture Series or EastFork I like reels with drag systems. Even a click-pawl drag is nice on the lightest of reels. Anyone ever have a dragless reel overshoot line and backspool? You will spend more time on the banks untangling line than fishing.
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I am submitting another response in fail of Ross; $50 for a new reel and they will honor repairs, warranties, etc. whether you buy their cheapest reel or their most expensive. For those of you who nominated the Phleuger Medalist I thought of that out of the gate as wee; but 30 bucks or so for a used reel is not comprable to a new reel. Tom- I don't know you from a whole in the wall but have read your ... more blog (which are intuitive, intellingent, witty, and sarcastic in an appropriate manner) for awhile (20+ months). I haven't seen any of these modern DVD fishing films and feel as though I am the leader in the clubhouse as I'm curious what criteria could be used other than the 1st reponder to your post (and I acknowledge there are numerous other valid posts as well). If I don't win I will forego my birthright to the new DVD in lieu of more bikini postings. Hopefully you do not include you or your lab in any of those postings...........although that could be entertaining!!!
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Lets see......... a good setup for a beninner should last for a while - why buy it if you ain't gonna abuse it. I would recommend a Scott A3 and a Ross Flycast. $75 for the reel and $295 for the rod. That setup would get you going and keep you in the game for a long time.
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It's easy, I have a Orvis Clearwater on my St. Croix and a Battenkill on my Sage. Both under $100 easy. Why even read any other posts :)
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I'm a fan of the TFO rod... my 4 wt Pro series (at about $160) is actually my go to stick over my Winston... the reel is clearly NOT your most important weapon, unless you are encountering 22"+ fish on a regular/daily basis... I fish 3x floro whenever I can, which means I rarely have to put a 14" fish on the reel... the fight is over and done with in a few seconds and the fish is back in its feeding ... more lane be the time some anglers have ended the fight... so... go with the Pflueger President for $100. You can put a $45 DT line on it. I did get my hand on an Echo and liked it though... so might sub in the Echo for the TFO.
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Personally I think a great setup would be a Ross CLA 2 reel and an Echo rod. I own a coupla Ross reels, they're great, and threw an Echo all day long at the Golden Gate club. Good starter rod. Guido
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Personally, I think the Pfluger Medalist that was mentioned before is ideal. For fresh water guys like me, not a lot of reel is nessesary, a functioning brain however is....hmmmm, that explains why I get skunked so often.
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...er- I mean "Okuma Integrity".... I spell well enough- I just don't type great...
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I like my Okuma Intergrity(5/6) It was $80 with extra spool at my local shop, Its heavy, but I haven't broken it as quickly as I have broken others in this price range and its got a good drag range and a big fat drag wheel... Even If I paid more for it I would like this reel...
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I think someone said it already, the Sage FLI rods are pretty fun.
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My nymph fly rod of choice is St Croix Imprial (especially for fat rainbows on the Pit River) paired with a Lamson LP2 reel. Since being bought out by waterworks the LP's aren't easy to find, so a Cabela's LSR1 will work. Whatever you use ,just get out there and get your line wet.
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that's easy, Medalist...or Cortland Crown II...as for the rod, I'd just go with an old Wonderod...oh wait, that's what I fish most of the time...well, most of the time I'm not fishing bamboo...
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I have found that the local fly shops that are closing faster than a virgin's legs always given me good advice in such matters. Tom at Hargroves in St. Louis told me to spend on the rod and then go cheap on the reel. I for one started on a St Croix and I have given many away to people getting into fly fishing. I have used a cheap Korean no name reel and never lost a fish because of it.
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I'm sort of with Nick and 40 Rivers. If I was suggesting a setup for a rank beginner, I wouldn't even go to the Imperial level. I'd suggest something like a Cabela's Three Forks rod and a Pflueger Medalist reel. Or just get one of the Cabela's combos, but I like the Medalist reels better than the combo reels. I'd even tell them to get one of the new Medalists if they could find one at a yard sale ... more or on ebay for $5. I've got one of the new ones, and though it's certainly inferior to my old American-made one, I've never had a bit of trouble out of it. I'd strongly suggest that they'd be far more stylish if they could find a vintage American one though. But, then again, I am a really cheap piece of dirt (clearly morally inferior). Nathan
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Suspect that you'll roll with a Lamson Konic and they do pack extremely good value for money. My preference leans toward the unheralded graphite composite reels from Denmark imported by Echo. They appear to be unbreakable, utilize a better-than-you-deserve drag system leased from Ari Hart and, best of all, retail for $70. This means spools are about $40. Naturally Tim Rajeff's Echo web site no longer ... more lists them. Yet another proof of that cosmic truth: if you like something buy a lifetime supply.
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Tom Chandler: Hell, you guys are cheap bastards. I was thinking of the Lamson Konic ($130 new). Clearly a sign of my elevated sensibilities and (possibly) even my moral superiority. Clearly, it's a good day to be the Underground. I was going to suggest the Konic as well, but: (a) I haven't fished it and (b) the Radius is now cheaper despite (c) being the next tier up from the Konic in Lamson's catalogue ... more before they replaced it with the Guru this year.
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Hell, you guys are cheap bastards. I was thinking of the Lamson Konic ($130 new). Clearly a sign of my elevated sensibilities and (possibly) even my moral superiority. Clearly, it's a good day to be the Underground.
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Heck, my first reel was a Scientific Anglers System 1 456 and is still my go-to trout and bass reel. At about $50, I find it vastly superior to the FlyStart (which I also have). Not only is it all-metal and pretty bulletproof, it is still made in England. The click and pawl drag is more than enough for nearly all trout. I caught my first (17 pound) salmon with this reel and a Sage 5wt. The FlyStart ... more is made by Ross Worldwide (not Ross USA), I think in China. The drag is plastic and the finish is brittle.
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Here is my pick for the novice. Item Features Cabela's Three Forks Fly Rod and Reel Combo with Fly Line Item number: IK-321164 ROD MODEL: 865-2/456 This item is in stock. Price $74.99 Comes pre-spooled with weight-forward floating fly line, tapered leader and backing. This and a few caddis and some old sneakers is all you need- and you don't even have to tap the jet pack funds. http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/item-link.jsp_A&_DAV=SEARCH_all&id=0051114321164a&navCount=3&podId=0051114&parentId=&masterpathid=&navAction=jump&catalogCode=IK&rid=&parentType=&indexId=cat20457&hasJS=true
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As far as new gear that's available? Easy - a Sage Fli 590 & a Lamson Konic reel. Sure you can go cheaper (though hopefully this isn't just about the cheapest setup you can buy), but for a combo that is still in the lower mid-range that one can spend, this rod and reel will last a long time and continue to grow with the angler as their skills improve, unlike some of the cheaper combos out there ... more that really are crap.
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why, a Hardy Zane Ti of course.
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If you're going to spend $325 and $150 on two pieces of kit, wouldn't it be rod and reel in that order? I feel like PM has it exactly bass ackwards. I'm a total greenhorn at fly fishing (though I've been spinning for most of my 30 years), and I've landed trout approaching ten pounds with the "assistance" of an old hand-me-down reel that's essentially dragless. If you have half a clue and a decent ... more rod, it's really not a big deal. Again, I'm no expert, but isn't the rod hugely more important than the reel when it comes to fighting power and tippet protection? I am by no means an experienced fly fisherman, but I'll recommend the Orvis Battenkill Bar Stock or the Lamson Radius, both of which can be found for under $100 on eBay, brand new in the Lamson's case because it's getting discontinued despite being a really good reel. I recently purchased an Orvis Mid-Arbor III reel that I quite liked the one time I've fished it so far, but that's a little bit spendier at 30 or 40 bucks more than the BBS. Still less than half of what PM would have you pay, though.
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OK I bought an Ari t Hart once because the guy at the flyshop said it was in the MOMA. I love the reel would never trade it. I agree with the St.Croix But if you are putting the Sage reel on why not go with at least an Avid? Never liked Cortland ever since my 444 days. Both the Simms products are made in china I found that out when I got my new boots and 09 catalog last week my Freestones are made ... more in the USA.
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Sage's 1650 would be very adequate, but maybe still overkill. LL Bean's Streamlight II or a used old school Battenkill would do just fine as well.
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Pfleuger Medalist, hands down- and not a new one. Go to ebay and pick up a vintage, American made, Medalist. It shouldn't dent their wallet more than $30- with shipping.
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Personally, I'm a fan or Ross Reel products. My favorite reel of all time is the pre 97 Gunnison - LOVE IT. To that note, a solid option for an affordable entry level reel would have to be the Ross FlyStart for $50 - the name says it all. Heck for $50, the warranty and customer service Ross offers is worth the price of admission alone. My 0.02.....
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