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		<title>Simms Apparently Slips In Market While Wearing Rubber Soled Boots, Backtracks on Felt</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tom Chandler</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The felt sole vs rubber sole wading boot wars are far from over, but after Simms announced their self-imposed felt sole ban was effectively over, a couple of things have become clear. First, Singlebarbed calls the industry on this stuff better than anybody. SIMMS has apparently pulled the plug on its self imposed felt ban, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The felt sole vs rubber sole wading boot wars are far from over, but after <a href="http://singlebarbed.com/2011/06/30/a-change-of-heart-is-fine-just-drop-the-shoe-price-by-half-and-well-like-you-again/" target="_blank">Simms announced their self-imposed felt sole ban was effectively over</a>, a couple of things have become clear.</p>
<p>First, Singlebarbed <a href="http://singlebarbed.com/2011/06/30/a-change-of-heart-is-fine-just-drop-the-shoe-price-by-half-and-well-like-you-again/" target="_blank">calls the industry</a> on this stuff better than anybody.</p>
<blockquote><p>SIMMS has apparently pulled the plug on its self imposed felt ban, and will be making all manner of felt soled wading shoes for 2012.</p>
<p>Naturally we&#8217;ll assume that&#8217;s its the suddenly decreased threat of Didymo that&#8217;s the root cause of this sudden change-of-heart, or it may simply be the recognition that angler behavior is the key to invasive species spread, and like prostitution it&#8217;s tough to legislate morality.</p>
<p>Me, I think their holy oath resulted in their being spanked smartly in the retail aisle, as any discussion on rubber soles amongst us anglers brings great froth, dissent, and much vitriol over their efficacy. Adding additional burden has been the lack of reliable information from shoes owners, given that the same boot is mentioned both as slippery and useless and wonderful, depending on who&#8217;s doing the pontificating.</p></blockquote>
<p>I switched to rubber years ago for its longevity &#8212; and while I&#8217;m willing to argue <em>against</em> felt for all sorts of reasons (rapid wear, snow buildup, wet grass/out of water performance, slow drying time, etc) &#8212; even I won&#8217;t pretend rubber&#8217;s the equal of felt in difficult wading conditions (which for a lot of fishermen is anytime they get their feet wet).</p>
<p>Simply put, the invasives issue doesn&#8217;t hinge on the material of your wading boot sole &#8212; it&#8217;s the effective, universal cleaning regime that doesn&#8217;t yet seem to exist.</p>
<p>Exactly how do you render your boots (and waders, and gravel guards, and float tube, and&#8230;) invasive-free when you&#8217;re on a road trip &#8212; starting early, fishing late, and moving to a new body of water every day?</p>
<p>Drying and freezing are out, and chemical &#8220;cures&#8221; (like bleach) are potentially worse than the disease (what happens when a hundred anglers with bleach residue on their gear step into the same stretch of a medium sized river every day for a whole season?).</p>
<h3>The Fallout</h3>
<p>I was at the trade show where Simms announced its self-imposed felt sole ban, and there was more than a little grumbling among the other manufacturers about Simms oversimplifying the invasives issue in order to count marketing coup (and Trout Unlimited&#8217;s complicity in the whole deal).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to speak to anyone&#8217;s motives &#8212; and the Simms move definitely fired the invasives discussion &#8212; but it&#8217;s also clear the majority of the anglers in the marketplace weren&#8217;t willing to blindly switch sole materials, at least in the absence of open discussion and (apparently) overblown promises of &#8220;it grips as well as felt.&#8221;</p>
<p>One industry-friendly site is already casting this decision in terms of industry leadership or choice (and not cold, hard cash), and you can expect more kid glove treatment from the rest of the usual suspects.</p>
<p>By contrast, look the number of dissenters who found a voice online, and tell me if this isn&#8217;t another example of <em>independent</em> online sites providing a useful check on a largely uncritical, industry-friendly media landscape.</p>
<p>See you slipping and sliding on the river, Tom Chandler.</p>
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		<title>Our IFTD &#8220;Share The Pain&#8221; Post (or, We&#8217;re Not Going to IFTD, So You Get To Read Press Releases)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 04:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tom Chandler</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[With the International Fly Tackle Dealer show about to kick off in Denver &#8211; and my interest in attending hampered by a lack of any real interest in the latest fly rods or reels &#8211; I needed to formulate a plan. Instead of going to show and uncritically gushing about all the like totally awesome [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the International Fly Tackle Dealer show about to kick off in Denver &#8211; and my interest in attending hampered by a lack of any real interest in the latest fly rods or reels &#8211; I needed to formulate a plan.</p>
<p>Instead of going to show and uncritically gushing about all the <em>like totally awesome</em> gear I see, I&#8217;m going to instead shovel the interesting new product announcements to the Undergrounders via cleverly disguised PR posts (which I&#8217;ll label as &#8220;PR Posts&#8221;).</p>
<p>That way, I can preserve my limited stock of &#8220;gush&#8221; for things like actual fishing reports and essays.</p>
<p>Enjoy, Undergrounders. Tomorrow we&#8217;ve got some interesting news from Orvis, and whatever else comes across my desk. (Given my lack of interest in publishing prior press releases, it turns out I&#8217;m not on all that many media lists. Who knew?)</p>
<h3>Buff Gear</h3>
<p><a href="http://www.buff.es/en/index.php?p=USA" target="_blank">Buff</a> &#8211; the makers of the handy &#8220;tube&#8221; headwear so beloved by the Underground has expanded its line of tubes with Polygiene treatment (designed to keep the synthetic tube from smelling like crap after one use) and its Insect Shield treatment (described below):</p>
<blockquote><p>The PolygieneÂ® treatment lasts a lifetime and effectively blocks 99.9-percent of odor-causing agents. Additionally, it reduces static electricity and has a soft, next-to-skin feel.<br />
PolygieneÂ® does not contain any harmful substances and is 100-percent safe to wear.</p>
<p>Insect ShieldÂ® is a man-made version of a natural insect repellent found in certain types of chrysanthemum plants; think of it as invisible, odorless, non-toxic and wearable insect protection.</p></blockquote>
<p>I like the Buff products for all sorts of reasons (and all sorts of weather), and while I&#8217;m not above springing for a less-expensive substitute, I use the things enough that I probably will tumble for the real thing.</p>
<h3>Simms Rebate</h3>
<p>Simms is throwing down a <a href="http://www.simmsfishing.com/site/recycled_wader_program.html?m=00187a3nIUJ6cCC1xIPFlMWnGHw" target="_blank">$50 rebate on your old waders</a> if you buy a new pair of Simms. From their email:</p>
<blockquote><p>We couldn&#8217;t have made it any easier. Just register online for your rebate voucher, locate a participating retailer, trade in your old pair of breathable waders and you receive up to $50 off immediately.</p></blockquote>
<h3>Fly Rod &amp; Reel</h3>
<p>Things are picking up for Fly Rod &amp; Reel magazine, who reports a 15% growth in readership from 2009. Obviously, I don&#8217;t know if the improved &#8220;quality&#8221; of the magazine is responsible (it would help newsstand sales), though their press release doesn&#8217;t offer up any subscriber information:</p>
<blockquote><p>â€¦verified reports on issues served through the mail plus newsstand show Fly Rod &amp; Reel is reaching more than 51,000 fly-fishersâ€”a 15 % growth in readership from 2009. &#8220;The numbers came in for our March 2010 issue, and they&#8217;re whopping. This was the first issue of FR&amp;R with our new upscale format and readers voted a resounding &#8216;yes&#8217; to our upgrades. For example, we sold nearly 14,000 copies on newsstand.</p></blockquote>
<h3>Hardy USA</h3>
<p>Launches two new lines of high-tech fly rods:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;their new Zenith freshwater and Proaxis saltwater ranges of fly rods. Each range is built with Hardy&#8217;s proprietary new Sintrix material. Sintrix is the result of ground breaking technology in the use of Silica Matrix Resin technology in collaboration with the 3M Corporation.</p>
<p>Hardy has developed their own specific formulation from this technology, and the results have been extensively field tested over the past 18 months. Their team of fishing pros from the Florida Keys to Montana has hailed the rods as truly innovative and exceptional fishing and casting tools.</p>
<p>The Sintrix material allows the design team to build the first series of rods that combines the best attributes of the modern reserve-power, fast action fly rods with the more technical requirements of tracking, tippet protection and a taper that shifts the load to the butt when you need to lay into the fish.</p></blockquote>
<p>3M Corporation is offering up a new resin technology for graphite rods that is popping up like Dandelions in spring, and while those who worry about eighths of an ounce in their fly rod want to know more, I still haven&#8217;t forgotten that 3M bought the Bill Phillipson Rod Company and then <em>shut it down</em> (bastidges!).</p>
<p>Never speak their name around the Underground again.</p>
<p>See you in the PR Department, Tom Chandler.</p>
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		<title>SIMMS Recalls Wading Staff Due to Faulty Design, Underground Suffers Flashback</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 20:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tom Chandler</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Though it happened years ago, the whole mess remains fresh in my mind: Two weeks after I rolled the L&#38;T&#8217;s Toyota Forerunner in an Idaho wheat field (twice), a recall notice &#8211; warning of a &#8220;potentially dangerous&#8221; loss of traction due to something wonky in the rear suspension &#8211; arrived. Timing, it seems, is everything. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though it happened years ago, the whole mess remains fresh in my mind: Two weeks <em>after</em> I rolled the L&amp;T&#8217;s Toyota Forerunner in an Idaho wheat field (twice), a recall notice &#8211; warning of a &#8220;potentially dangerous&#8221; loss of traction due to something wonky in the rear suspension &#8211; arrived.</p>
<p>Timing, it seems, is everything.</p>
<p>Given my sensitivity to <em>just-not-in-time</em> product recalls, you can understand why I&#8217;m <em>immediately</em> posting this news release from Simms about a flaw in their wading staff:</p>
<blockquote><p>BOZEMAN, Mont. (For immediate release) – Simms Fishing Products is voluntarily<br />
recalling certain models of Simms 2010 Wading Staffs. The affected wading staffs<br />
have a detent button that may not engage or can become dislodged making the staff<br />
inoperable.</p>
<p>These staffs, offered in two sizes (52&#8243; &amp; 56&#8243;), are sterling silver in color and are<br />
identified by Simms item numbers AWS101152 or AWS101156 (UPC numbers 94264-<br />
10102 or 94264-10103). Affected Wading Staffs are visibly identifiable by a silver cable<br />
connector (see photo).</p>
<p>The staffs were sold through authorized Simms dealers from March 1, 2010 through<br />
June 17, 2010. About 2,000 affected products were sent to retailers. Simms estimates<br />
about 1,000 have been purchased by consumers.</p>
<p>The issue was identified through company testing and customer use of the wading<br />
staff. No injuries have been reported in conjunction with the defective wading staffs.<br />
Wading Staffs meeting the above criteria should be returned for replacement or refund<br />
by contacting Simms directly at 877-789-6555, by contacting an Authorized Simms<br />
Retail or by email at recall@simmsfishing.com.</p></blockquote>
<p>See you in the orthopedic ward, Tom Chandler.</p>
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		<title>The Underground Posts The Mother Of All Rubber Soled Wading Boot Reviews (And Comes to a Few Surprising Conclusions)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 04:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tom Chandler</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Will New Studded Rubber Soles Kill Felt &#8211; Before It&#8217;s Legislated Away? NOTE: Because the I posted this on a Friday (so it would be four posts deep by Monday), I&#8217;m making it &#8220;sticky.&#8221; It will remain atop the stack until Monday&#8230; Now that Alaska&#8217;s announced a statewide felt sole ban &#8211; and with a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3>Will New Studded Rubber Soles Kill Felt &#8211; Before It&#8217;s Legislated Away?</h3>
<p><strong>NOTE: </strong><em>Because the I posted this on a Friday (so it would be four posts deep by Monday), I&#8217;m making it &#8220;sticky.&#8221; It will remain atop the stack until Monday&#8230;</em></p>
<p>Now that <a href="http://www.tu.org/press_releases/2010/trout-unlimited-commends-alaska-board-of-fisheries-for-adopting-statewide-phase-" target="_blank">Alaska&#8217;s announced a statewide felt sole ban</a> &#8211; and with a <a href="http://www.vpr.net/news_detail/87714/" target="_blank">Vermont ban</a> already in the works (plus New Zealand, plus&#8230;) &#8211; one thing seems clear.</p>
<p>Some of you may not be wearing felt-soled wading boots much longer.</p>
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<p>The topic of felt soles and bans led to a <a href="http://troutunderground.com/2010/02/26/bans-on-felt-soled-wading-boots-gathering-steam-how-long-until-youre-wearing-rubber-and-practicing-safe-wading/" target="_blank">spirited debate on the Underground</a>, and while the necessity of anti-felt legislation is debatable, the future will likely include bans for at least some of the Undergrounders.</p>
<p>And another reality intrudes; even though I&#8217;m not yet legally obligated to wear rubber soles, some of us abandoned felt long ago, and haven&#8217;t looked back.</p>
<p>In my case, felt was fine when new, but wore quickly on the sharp-edged rocks of the Upper Sac&#8217;s railroad tracks. After a few months of hiking along the rails, the grippy felt largely disappeared, the studs protruded, and I was left wearing boots with a truly distressing tendency to skate on smooth, angled rocks.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the kind of thing that made both the L&amp;T and my insurance company break out in a rash.</p>
<p>And dry land performance? Winter performance? Let&#8217;s not go there.</p>
<p>In simple terms, I haven&#8217;t conducted a yearlong test of rubber and studded rubber soles because I may one day be forced to wear it.</p>
<p>Instead, I believe it may already be a better all-around choice than felt.</p>
<div  class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 580px"><img title="Guides testing wading boots" src="http://troutunderground.com/images/guideboots.jpg" alt="" width="580" height="549" /><p class="wp-caption-text">No guides were harmed over the course of our wading boot test (though I thought about it)</p></div>
<p>In fact, I&#8217;ll go a step further: It&#8217;s possible felt bans may be unnecessary; the bulk of the market could simply move to rubber/studded rubber sans legislation.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not what you&#8217;d call a universally accepted view &#8211; and I&#8217;m wary of marketing-driven &#8220;green&#8221; campaigns against felt &#8211; but given my recent testing, it&#8217;s an idea whose time may have come.</p>
<h3>Some Background</h3>
<p>For two years after swearing off felt, I wore studded rubber boots from Weinbrenner, which didn&#8217;t offer anything near the grip of today&#8217;s rubber soles.</p>
<p>Last year&#8217;s <a href="http://troutunderground.com/2009/03/24/gear-review-are-patagonias-riverwalker-sticky-rubber-wading-boots-grippy-or-gimpy/" target="_blank">initial tests of &#8220;sticky rubber&#8221; soles</a> were promising, but ultimately,<a href="http://troutunderground.com/2009/11/05/another-step-in-the-undergrounds-ongoing-wading-boot-test/" target="_blank"> plain rubber soles by Simms, Patagonia, Korkers and others didn&#8217;t make the cut on tough freestone rivers</a>.</p>
<p>In easier wading situations &#8211; like the Bitterroot or Roque (and most of the Upper Sac), plain sticky rubber worked well enough (better for me than some others, apparently).</p>
<p>And on small streams &#8211; where dry grip is as important as wet grip &#8211; the soft Patagonia sticky rubber soles were superb (and light, and comfortable).</p>
<p>In other words, modern rubber wading boots have something to offer &#8211; but not in hard-to-tough situations.</p>
<h3>So What About Studded Rubber Soles?</h3>
<p>My on-the-water experience with studded rubber soles is pretty clear; compared to plain rubber, studded rubber soles offer a practical, all-around substitute for felt and studded felt.</p>
<p>The grip on soft surfaces &#8211; like slimy, snotty rocks &#8211; is much better than straight rubber (as you&#8217;d expect).</p>
<p>They also last longer and clean easier than felt (though clean soles are hardly the final solution in the invasives issue).</p>
<p>In my experience, studded rubber also outperforms felt in winter, in icy situations, in mud, and in a few other situations.</p>
<p>And yes, the durability issue means they should offer far more bang for your buck.</p>
<p>But do they grip well enough? Let&#8217;s see.</p>
<h3>Our Lab Rats</h3>
<p>I tested the <a href="http://www.simmsfishing.com/site/headwaters_wading_boot_aquasteath_.html" target="_blank">Simms</a>, <a href="http://www.korkers.com/footwear/fishing/guide-wading-boot.html" target="_blank">Korker</a> and the new <a href="http://www.orvis.com/store/product.aspx?pf_id=2A98&amp;dir_id=758&amp;group_id=11059&amp;cat_id=5421&amp;subcat_id=6047" target="_blank">Orvis studded rubber boots</a> on a notoriously slimy portion of the Upper Sacramento.</p>
<p>(Disclosure: I bought the Patagonia Riverwalkers, but the Simms, Korker and Orvis boots were sent for review. And I&#8217;ll send &#8216;em back if they want.)</p>
<p>I could have added studs to the Patagonia boots, but like them just the way they are, so I didn&#8217;t. With studs, I expect they&#8217;d work as well &#8211; or as poorly &#8211; as the boots I tested.</p>
<p>I also tested some screw-in studs from a company called <a href="http://gripstuds.com/hiking_boots/hiking_boots.html" target="_blank">Grip Studs</a>. They feature an interesting design and <a href="http://gripstuds.com/hiking_boots/hiking_boots.html" target="_blank">drop-dead easy application tool</a>, and they&#8217;re worth a look, though you probably won&#8217;t be able to buy them at your fly shop.</p>
<div  class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 580px"><img title="Grip Studs" src="http://troutunderground.com/images/gripstuds.jpg" alt="" width="580" height="509" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Grip Studs look very secure, and the mounting system is easy. Might be a great way to add studs to non fly fishing shoes too...</p></div>
<p>On the river, I waded through what amounted to an underwater obstacle course, and tried to grade the performance of the boots.</p>
<p>I toured bowling-ball sized snot rocks, climbed on dry, steeply angled bankside granite, hit what I called &#8220;the Muck Run&#8221; and tromped on a few other substrates.</p>
<p>Included was a distressingly effective test where I climbed up on an angled, slippery underwater rock, then tried to see how much downward &#8220;oomph&#8221; it took to slip the boots.</p>
<p>How&#8217;s that work? Well, I&#8217;m happy to report no one was there to video the scene.</p>
<p>And thrilled to say I got all the boots to finally let go, though never went in over my waders (I am <em>Catman</em>).</p>
<p>Just to make it interesting, I also took the tour with a pair of studded felts (older Weinbrenners), and my old Weinbrenner studded rubber.</p>
<p>Added to the mix were my impressions from all the studded rubber trips taken in the fall and winter. They weren&#8217;t head-to-head tests (I was fishing after all), but they provided useful information.</p>
<h3>The Results</h3>
<p>Prepare to <em>not</em> be surprised.</p>
<p>Basically &#8211; as you might expect &#8211; the modern studded rubber boots delivered similar experiences.</p>
<p>The studded Weinbrenners were exactly as I remembered &#8211; solid boots, but lacking grippy rubber, a lugged sole, or much in the way of grip from the small spikes.</p>
<p>In other words, they didn&#8217;t measure up.</p>
<p>The studded felts did wonderfully on the smooth, curved snot rocks (the soles flex to fit the contour, increasing grip), yet caused me to wish I was wearing a highly absorptive undergarment on the smooth, slanted granite and the big dry rocks.</p>
<p>Was there an Absolute Grip Winner (barely) among the studded rubber contenders?</p>
<p>Barely. But yes.</p>
<h3>The Orvis Studded Rubber EcoTraX Soles</h3>
<p>The Orvis sole delivered grip similar to the other boots on the firm stuff (rocks, etc), but on softer surfaces (like <em>really</em> thick algae, mud, etc), they clearly outperformed the others (even the studded felt).</p>
<p>The reason for their grip? I&#8217;m guessing it&#8217;s not their sole, but their aggressive, four-bladed stud design.</p>
<div  class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 580px"><img title="The Orvis stud" src="http://troutunderground.com/images/orvisstuds.jpg" alt="" width="580" height="380" /><p class="wp-caption-text">We call that aggressive; The four-bladed Orvis wading boot stud.</p></div>
<p>You can see why they&#8217;d grip &#8211; and why you&#8217;d probably only wear these on your brand-new hardwood floors <em>once</em>.</p>
<p>The Orvis soles offered limpet-like grip on the really snotty stuff, and didn&#8217;t exhibit the less-desireable characteristics I expected (on smooth, dry, angled rocks, they didn&#8217;t skate).</p>
<p>They&#8217;re new, so I can&#8217;t speak to the longevity of the studs.</p>
<p>Yet I can say with some certainty that they&#8217;re not what you&#8217;d call &#8220;quiet&#8221; on pavement and rocky surfaces.</p>
<p>That said, grip is grip, and these have it in spades.</p>
<p><strong><em>Notes about the Orvis Boots:</em></strong><em> Though nicely constructed, these boots ran large. I&#8217;m normally a size 11, but needed thick socks and a thick neoprene bootie to make these size 11 boots work (and just barely).</em></p>
<p><em>Wearing a normal sock and a thinner neoprene bootie (for wet wading) was a nonstarter &#8211; my foot positively swam inside them. Order small, or better, try them on.</em></p>
<h3>The Simms Headwaters Boot</h3>
<p>The rubber-soled Simms boots are sold without studs, which are purchased separately and installed. (Note to Simms: How about a stud placement chart?)</p>
<p>I tested the Simms Hard Bite Studs (see below), though they also now offer a more aggressive <a href="http://www.simmsfishing.com/site/hardbite_star_cleat.html" target="_blank">Hard Bite &#8220;Star Cleat</a>&#8221; (see below below).</p>
<div  class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 580px"><img title="Simms Hard Bite Studs" src="http://troutunderground.com/images/simmsstuds.jpg" alt="" width="580" height="463" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Their interesting pebble texture held better than expected.</p></div>
<p>The Hard Bite Studs feature &#8220;welded carbide pellets), which seem to offer good all-around performance (especially if you forget and wear them someplace you shouldn&#8217;t).</p>
<p>The Star Bite studs received positive reviews from several Undergrounders, and their rounded, low-profile design didn&#8217;t really penalize me in the grip area (I thought they might).</p>
<p>Instead, they were well-behaved, and clearly less damaging to things like car floors, brake pedals, wooden steps and other places you probably shouldn&#8217;t be wearing them in the first place.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a set of the Star Cleats available for testing, so I won&#8217;t comment on them except to say they look aggressive:</p>
<div  class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 426px"><img src="http://troutunderground.com/images/simmsstar.jpg" alt="" width="426" height="417" /><p class="wp-caption-text">We didn&#39;t have these available for testing, but they look interesting.</p></div>
<p><em><strong>Notes About Simms Boots:</strong> The Simms Vibram soles are quite stiff (some like that aspect, though I didn&#8217;t), and for a &#8220;lightweight&#8221; wading boot, they offer a very protective environment. The Simms fit relatively true to size, and are rightly famous for their all-around comfort.</em></p>
<h3>The Korkers Guide Boot</h3>
<p>The studded rubber soles of the <a href="http://www.korkers.com/footwear/fishing/guide-wading-boot.html" target="_blank">Korkers Guide Boots</a> feature a more &#8220;conventional&#8221; pointed stud design, though in some ways, these boots were the most revolutionary tested.</p>
<div  class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 580px"><img title="Korkers Klingon soles" src="http://troutunderground.com/images/klingons.jpg" alt="" width="580" height="442" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Sure, you want to stone them for the name, but it&#39;s hard to argue with interchangeable soles.</p></div>
<p>The soles are interchangeable, so you can switch between plain rubber, studded rubber, felt, studded felt, and a wicked-looking, massively spiked &#8220;mossy rock lug&#8221; sole.</p>
<p>The Korker&#8217;s changeable soles might ease what I&#8217;ll call <em>Felt Separation Anxiety Syndrome</em>, though let&#8217;s be clear; changing the soles is not a 30 second operation, and the extra soles aren&#8217;t free.</p>
<p>That said, these might be the boots to own if you travel or fish wildly different varying rivers.</p>
<p>Or maybe if you&#8217;re indecisive and prone to second-guessing (the Underground caters to all fly fishermen).</p>
<p>The Korker soles gripped well; the Kling-on rubber (Korkers fails the Star Trek Geek Test) might be a bit softer than the stiff Vibram soles of the Simms and Orvis, though probably not as soft as the Patagonia boots.</p>
<p><em><strong>Notes About Korkers Guide Boots:</strong> The Korkers featured the BOA lacing system, which eschews shoelaces in favor of a steel cable and ratchet. Adjusting the tension was very easy &#8211; even while wearing gloves. That&#8217;s good because they needed to be tightened a few times before reaching an equilibrium &#8211; not an unusual occurrence when dry wading boots get wet.</em></p>
<p><em>These boots are also very light and very protective, though they ran a little small (thin socks and thin neoprene make them workable, but you&#8217;ll want to try these before buying).</em></p>
<h3>A Few Conclusions</h3>
<p>It&#8217;s likely the differences in grip between the boots I tested had more to do with the design of the studs than the rubber soles.</p>
<p>Tom Rosenbauer of Orvis added a layer of mystery when he said via email that: &#8220;The key lies in the stud design AND the placement of the studs.&#8221;</p>
<p>According to him, their studs (and apparently, the placement of them) was the subject of a lot of testing.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t swear it&#8217;s true, but if I was adding studs to a pair of boots and lacked other guidance, I&#8217;d be tempted to copy their stud placement.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also suggest the rapidly evolving design of metal studs was narrowing whatever gap still existed between felt and studded rubber.</p>
<p>In most circumstances, studded felt didn&#8217;t hold much of an edge (if any), and in many ways, the new studded rubber simply outclassed the felt.</p>
<p><strong>Some Good, Lightweight News</strong></p>
<p>All the boots tested were far lighter than my old Weinbrenners, yet offered better protection and stability.</p>
<p>In fact, the Orvis and Simms boots weren&#8217;t even their most-protective (or heaviest) models, and the Patagonias and Korkers are very light to begin with.</p>
<p>Yet my feet have never felt so sheltered.</p>
<p>And while heavy boots may feed some macho instinct, at the end of a long day of hiking, rock scrambling and wading, lighter is better.</p>
<p>Clearly, not just the soles are seeing improvement.</p>
<p><strong>The Role of Wading Technique</strong></p>
<p>Valuable Tip #2? Learn to wade on a flat foot.</p>
<p>Most people wade like they&#8217;re walking down the sidewalk; heavy heel strike, feet far apart, and a constant shifting of balance along a narrow line.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s great for covering a lot of ground in a hurry, but it&#8217;s pretty much a guaranteed dunking on the river.</p>
<p>Wading so your foot meets the stream bottom relatively flat (the ball of your foot hits about the same time your heel does) might make more difference than any grippy sole ever will.</p>
<p>When wading &#8220;normally&#8221; it&#8217;s easy to lose your balance; when you wade on a flat foot, your whole boot tends to squirm down into a solid footing.</p>
<p>The flat foot was why I avoided dunkings with my not-so-grippy Weinbrenner boots, and probably why I&#8217;m happier with the straight rubber Patagonia Riverwalkers than other folks.</p>
<p>Add a wading staff to a flat-footed wading technique, and you may never fall again.</p>
<p><strong>The Final Load Out</strong></p>
<p>I think the new studded rubber boots are ready for prime time &#8211; at least <em>on my waters</em>.</p>
<p>Over the course of the last year, those waters have included bouldered small streams, meadow streams, spring creeks, and freestone rivers like the Rogue, Bitterroot, McCloud and Upper Sac.</p>
<p>(Perhaps some of our Northwest readers can chime in with their experiences on the NW&#8217;s hard-to-wade steelhead rivers.)</p>
<p>Some anecdotal evidence suggests studded rubber&#8217;s also workable on even the &#8220;widowmaker&#8221; Pit River, though &#8211; just like felt soles &#8211; every rubber wading boot sole is going to have its good and bad moments</p>
<p>My own personal take? I&#8217;m keeping my Patagonia Riverwalkers un-studded &#8211; they&#8217;re just too good to mess with, and I&#8217;d happily fish the Upper Sac with them sans studs.</p>
<p>Still, I also fish the McCloud, Klamath and Pit Rivers, and I think a pair of studded rubber boots is in order.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re waiting for me to pick one out of the scrum, get ready for a massive letdown.</p>
<p>I suggest choosing the pair that fit you the best.</p>
<p>The exception might come in the form of the Korkers, which offer a flexibility the others don&#8217;t &#8211; but at a price.</p>
<p>Acclimating to studded rubber will require a few changes in thinking. They&#8217;re better in some areas, but worse in others, and those with hardwired wading reflexes might have to adjust.</p>
<p>That said, they work, and work well &#8211; and should last a lot longer.</p>
<p>The first time you wear them, keep in mind what an industry veteran told me on the phone: &#8220;The first time someone wearing rubber soles slips, they immediately forget all the times they fell wearing felt.&#8221;</p>
<p>See you with the rubber side down, Tom Chandler.</p>
<div  class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 530px"><img src="http://troutunderground.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/wadingboots.jpg" alt="" width="530" height="356" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Patagonia&#39;s  Sticky Rubber</p></div>
<h3>Other Posts in the Wading Boot Review Series Include (in chronological order):</h3>
<p><a href="http://troutunderground.com/2009/03/24/gear-review-are-patagonias-riverwalker-sticky-rubber-wading-boots-grippy-or-gimpy/" target="_blank">Gear Review: Are Patagonia&#8217;s Riverwalker â€œSticky Rubberâ€ Wading Boots Grippy or Gimpy?</a></p>
<p><a href="http://troutunderground.com/2009/06/02/the-great-rubber-soled-wading-boot-test-continues-the-guides-weigh-in/" target="_blank">The Great Rubber-Soled Wading Boot Test Continues: The Guides Weigh In</a></p>
<p><a href="http://troutunderground.com/2009/07/06/the-undergrounds-wading-boot-review-begins-a-new-chapter/" target="_blank">The Underground&#8217;s Wading Boot Review Begins a New Chapter</a></p>
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<p><a href="http://troutunderground.com/2009/09/26/thoughts-on-sticky-rubber-wading-boots-small-streams-and-marketing/" target="_blank">Thoughts On Sticky Rubber Wading Boots, Small Streams, And Marketing</a></p>
<p><a href="http://troutunderground.com/2009/11/05/another-step-in-the-undergrounds-ongoing-wading-boot-test/" target="_blank">Another Step in the Underground&#8217;s Ongoing Wading Boot Test</a></p>
<p><a href="http://troutunderground.com/2010/02/26/bans-on-felt-soled-wading-boots-gathering-steam-how-long-until-youre-wearing-rubber-and-practicing-safe-wading/" target="_blank">Bans on Felt Soled Wading Boots Gathering Steam: How Long Until You&#8217;re Wearing Rubber (And Practicing Safe Wading)?</a></p>
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		<title>Fly Fishing the Rogue River When Fly Fishing May Not Be the Point</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Chandler</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[At the end of a long winter (even an easy long winter), 80 degree feels about ten degrees hotter than the world&#8217;s ever been, and you marvel at the feel of sunlight glowing directly on skin sans a fleece buffer between the two. Though I had to cut and run from work on Monday to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the end of a long winter (even an <em>easy</em> long winter), 80 degree feels about ten degrees hotter than the world&#8217;s <em>ever</em> been, and you marvel at the feel of sunlight glowing directly on skin sans a fleece buffer between the two.</p>
<p>Though I had to cut and run from work on Monday to fish the Rogue with Dave Roberts, I rationalized the escape thusly: I wanted to.</p>
<div  id="attachment_3076" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 530px"><img class="size-full wp-image-3076" title="davecasting" src="http://troutunderground.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/davecasting.jpg" alt="Dave Roberts bravely testing wading boots for the Undergrounders." width="530" height="329" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Dave Roberts bravely testing wading boots for the Undergrounders.</p></div>
<p>It&#8217;s not the kind of thing that makes clients happy, but as everyone knows (at least after reading this), an under-recreated writer is a boring writer, and at some point, you&#8217;ve gotta fly fish.</p>
<p>For those looking for big fish stories, I&#8217;ll be blunt: stop reading here.</p>
<p>Though Dave Roberts knows the Upper Rogue like the rest of us know our living rooms, this was not a hard-charging, balls-to-the-wall, extreme fishing adventure.</p>
<p>Instead, we more or less doodled along the river, fishing for steelhead (one of which bit a streamer, but came unbuttoned after a couple seconds). We also landed a pair of 11&#8243; trout who apparently didn&#8217;t know w you&#8217;re not allowed to fish for trout on the Rogue right now, which suggests the trout have yet to invent their own version of Twitter.</p>
<div  id="attachment_3077" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 530px"><img class="size-full wp-image-3077" title="Dave Roberts rowing a drift boat on the Upper Rogue River" src="http://troutunderground.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/daverobertsrowing.jpg" alt="Looks pretty and scenic from the shore - until you realize your ride to the ramp is leaving." width="530" height="374" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Looks pretty and scenic from the shore - until you realize your ride to the ramp is leaving.</p></div>
<p><strong>The Testing Continues</strong></p>
<p>We did manage to further the world&#8217;s scientifically derived knowledge about a pair of the next-generation rubber-soled wading boots, testing the newly arrived Simms wading boots against the <a href="http://troutunderground.com/2009/03/24/gear-review-are-patagonias-riverwalker-sticky-rubber-wading-boots-grippy-or-gimpy/" target="_blank">previously reviewed Patagonias</a>.</p>
<p>The Rogue is positively filled with green snot-covered rocks the size of your average loaf of bread, making it an ideal testing ground for rubber soled-boots.</p>
<div  id="attachment_3078" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 530px"><img class="size-full wp-image-3078" title="Upper Rogue River rocks" src="http://troutunderground.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/rocksnot.jpg" alt="Slimy enough? Our testing grounds..." width="530" height="301" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Slimy enough? Our testing grounds...</p></div>
<p>On two separate runs, Roberts and I got out and tromped around, then swapped boots and did it again. (The rocks were slimy enough that a fair amount of detached green stuff floated downstream when we waded.)</p>
<p>While more testing is needed (preferably on some remote BC steelhead river, though budgetary concerns suggest the Upper Sac will have to do), we both came to the rather surprising conclusion that these things worked pretty damned well in a situation where we didn&#8217;t expect they would.</p>
<div  id="attachment_3079" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 250px"><img class="size-full wp-image-3079" title="Testing wading boots" src="http://troutunderground.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/testerworking.jpg" alt="The work is hard, but no sacrifice is too great for my readers." width="250" height="441" /><p class="wp-caption-text">The work is hard, but no sacrifice is too great for my readers.</p></div>
<p>It&#8217;s possible the Simms&#8217; more aggressive tread pattern gave it a slight edge in the &#8220;greasy bowling ball&#8221; portion of the test, though we&#8217;ve yet to test the Simms boots in varied Upper Sacramento or small stream conditions (coming soon).</p>
<p>At this point, I&#8217;d have no qualms about using either boot on the Rogue. And Roberts &#8211; who admitted to reading my reports on Patagonia&#8217;s boots with some skepticism &#8211; was ready to buy either pair, though the Simms fit him best (the Patagonias felt more comfy to me, telling us what we already know &#8211; different shoes fit different feet&#8230; differently).</p>
<p><strong>More Testing</strong></p>
<p>Plenty more to come from the Underground; I also concluded testing on the Redington 6wt rod &amp; reel combo, and I&#8217;ve added it to the &#8220;write this&#8221; pile (which has grown pretty sizable).</p>
<p>Several DVDs are waiting for reviews, and yes, there&#8217;s always the chance for another fishing report.</p>
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<p>See you slaving away, Tom Chandler.</p>
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