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		<title>Underground Fly Gear Review: The Redington RS4 Fly Rod/Rise Fly Reel Combo</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Redington line of fly fishing gear is what a marketer would call a &#8220;value&#8221; brand &#8211; fly fishing rods, reels and gear that don&#8217;t compete at the very high end of the price range, but (theoretically) offer more &#8220;value&#8221; than premier brands. In the past, &#8220;value&#8221; was often synonymous with half-assed gear, which is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Redington line of fly fishing gear is what a marketer would call a &#8220;value&#8221; brand &#8211; fly fishing rods, reels and gear that don&#8217;t compete at the very high end of the price range, but (theoretically) offer more &#8220;value&#8221; than premier brands.</p>
<p>In the past, &#8220;value&#8221; was often synonymous with half-assed gear, which is why &#8211; when Redington offered up a fly rod and reel for review &#8211; I was a little hesitant.</p>
<p>Early Redington fly rods (prior to the company&#8217;s purchase by the same corp that owns Sage and Rio) had a reputation for wildness; one taper would be brilliant, yet another would be awful.</p>
<p>That was a decade ago, but the downside to testing gear is that you should actually <em>use</em> it (at least, some of us prefer it that way). That can be a joy, but other times you&#8217;re stuck on the river, fishing a piece of crap and wondering why you&#8217;re bothering.</p>
<p>Happily, this test turned out largely crap-free.</p>
<p><strong>First Look: The Redington RS4/Rise Reel Combo</strong></p>
<div  class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 540px"><img style="border: 0pt none;" title="Redington RS4 Fly Rod/Rise Fly Reel combo" src="http://troutunderground.com/images/rodreelcase.jpg" border="0" alt="redington rs4 fly rod and rise fly reel" width="540" height="501" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Rod, reel, line and case - $410 MSRP</p></div>
<p>First things first; I&#8217;m happy to note the <a href="http://www.redington.com/prod.php?k=50169&amp;p=RDT5-2021T029&amp;u=RS4#zoom-/dimg/ccaf2f6208433c6e86299be0f5d96403.jpg" target="_blank">RS4 fly rod and Rise fly reel combo</a> came fully rigged &#8211; the backing, Rio Mainstream line and leader were already knotted and on the spool.</p>
<p>Thank dog. (Underground pet peeve: Fly rod/reel combo sets that require a novice fly fisherman to learn four arcane knots before they start casting.)</p>
<p>Because Singlebarbed and I were jointly testing this combo (and I&#8217;ve got a thing for 6wt fly rods), we tumbled for the Redington RS4/Rise Reel combo in a 9&#8242; 6wt (4-pc).</p>
<p>That way, I could abuse it with streamers, fish with it dries, try it on the Rogue (where steelies are always a possibility), and maybe fling some sinking lines &#8211; while Singlebarbed could fish it on his beloved brownlines.</p>
<p>So what happened?</p>
<p><strong>The RS4 Fly Rod</strong></p>
<p>Modern fly rods tend towards speed, a basic truth which means I often fish older rods.</p>
<p>And while I was expecting more of the same from the <a href="http://www.redington.com/prod.php?k=50169&amp;p=RDT5-2021T029&amp;u=RS4#zoom-/dimg/ccaf2f6208433c6e86299be0f5d96403.jpg" target="_blank">Redington RS4</a>, I was pleasantly surprised.</p>
<div  class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 540px"><img style="border: 0pt none;" title="Redington RS4 Fly Rod" src="http://troutunderground.com/images/rs4rod.jpg" border="0" alt="Redington RS4 Fly Rod" width="540" height="171" /><p class="wp-caption-text">The picture&#39;s a little off; the RS4 is an attractive olive color</p></div>
<p>After fishing it for a half-dozen trips (my first couple trips with it saw me flinging streamers, dry flies and yes &#8211; the dreaded split shot rig), my reaction was &#8220;This is nice. This is OK.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is relatively fast, but lacks the pool cue demeanor that has marred so many other modern fly rods.</p>
<p>After using it a while, I was tempted to simply declare it &#8220;a nice fly rod,&#8221; but after catching fish on everything from dries to streamers on the thing, I realized it only qualified as &#8220;nice&#8221; by the loftiest of standards.</p>
<p>In other words, this is a very fishable rod &#8211; one that surprised even the Tupperware-averse, bamboo-loving Dave Roberts into saying &#8220;I&#8217;m impressed. It&#8217;s a good rod. It feels pretty nice when you cast.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wayne Eng (another frequent Underground <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Lab Rat</span> tester) found it wholly fishable on several fronts, and Wayne fishes more different fly rods than just about anyone I know).</p>
<p>&#8220;This is pretty sweet&#8221; he said (in his typically aw-shucks, laid-back Wayne demeanor, like he was the first Chinese person to grow up in Mayberry).</p>
<p>In truth, it wouldn&#8217;t be too many years ago that the RS4 would be considered a high-end rod; it was strong, yet progressive enough that it retained a lot of &#8220;feel.&#8221;</p>
<p>I fished it with sinking lines and big flies, and never ran headlong into that messy zone you used to hit with fast-tapered fly rods, where the tip is too light to handle the stresses, but the butt&#8217;s too stiff to allow a little feedback to make its way to your casting hand.</p>
<p>The RS4 kind of sneaks up on you &#8211; you&#8217;re just fishing and the right things happen, and you realize it&#8217;s a better rod than you thought it would be for the money ($250 MSRP). Here&#8217;s the Redington pitch on the RS4:</p>
<blockquote><p>More RS4 Details:</p>
<ul>
<li>Moss-colored blank made with high-end 51- million modulus Toray graphite</li>
<li>AAA grade Portuguese cork handle</li>
<li>Pac Bay Aluminum Oxide stripping guides</li>
<li>Laser engraved machined aluminum with moss colored graphite insert (Handle A) and laser engraved anodized machined aluminum on saltwater models (Handle B)</li>
<li>Alignment dots with length and line designations labeled on each section above ferrule</li>
<li>Three spey rod models are available with a 15&#8243; fore-grip</li>
<li>2-piece and 4-piece outfits come with the new Moss RISE reel, prespooled with backing, knotless leader and RIO Mainstream fly line in a durable black carrying case.</li>
<li>Lifetime Warranty</li>
</ul>
</blockquote>
<p>It also does what a reasonable 6wt should &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t fold up when you do something horrifying, yet you really can fish a #20 BWO with it without fear of gifting flies to fish on the hook set.</p>
<p>The reel seat and guides are strictly middle-of-the-road; the by-now-standard woven carbon fiber reel seat and reverse Western grip (which wasn&#8217;t too skinny for a change) are reliable, proven stuff.</p>
<p>The rod itself is an attractive olive color (we&#8217;re happy the fly rod manufacturers finally discovered color), and the whole shebang comes in a black cordura case with a bulged end (the reel can stay on the rod).</p>
<p><strong>The Rise Fly Reel</strong></p>
<p>If the Redington RS4 rod sneaks up on you, the <a href="http://www.redington.com/prod.php?k=46435&amp;p=RDT5-3037S012&amp;u=RISE#" target="_blank">Rise fly reel</a> stands up and makes a statement right away.</p>
<div  class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 400px"><img style="border: 0pt none;" title="Redington Rise Fly Reel" src="http://troutunderground.com/images/rsrreeltable.jpg" border="0" alt="Redington Rise Fly Reel" width="400" height="590" /><p class="wp-caption-text">The Rise - especially the burnt orange color - is a style fly reel</p></div>
<p>It&#8217;s one of the current crop of impressively high-tech machined fly reels that runs smooth and quiet.</p>
<p>Again, this isn&#8217;t the whiz-bang high-end stuff, but it&#8217;s still way more than we need to get the job done. Here&#8217;s Redington&#8217;s description of the reel:</p>
<blockquote><p>This fully machined 6061 T6 aluminum Mid-arbor construction reel features a cork on Teflon center drag design, a Koyo one-way clutch and ceramic coated bearings for smoothness and durability.</p></blockquote>
<p>Redington is running ads describing the Rise as &#8220;Rod Candy&#8221; and that could be an accurate description. The burnt orange reel is &#8211; if the L&amp;T&#8217;s reaction to the picture is any indicator &#8211; going to sell <em>real</em> well, and the &#8220;moss&#8221; reel that come with the set we tested looks, well, great.</p>
<p>In truth, there&#8217;s not a lot to say about the reel, except that&#8217;s impressively built, extremely smooth, and yes &#8211; good looking.</p>
<p>Unlike so many reels, the handle was big enough to grip (though I&#8217;m always up for something a teensy bit bigger).</p>
<p>And while it&#8217;s a part of a combo, if I had to choose between the RS4 rod and the Rise reel, I&#8217;d probably pick the Rise as the more interesting of the two (though that&#8217;s colored by the fact I already own a lot of nice 6wt rods, but I am looking for a 6wt reel).</p>
<div  class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 540px"><img title="Redington RS4/Rise reel fly fishing combo" src="http://troutunderground.com/images/rs4rainyday.jpg" alt="Wayne Eng fishes it on a coldy, rainy winter day" width="540" height="557" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Wayne Eng fishes it on a coldy, rainy winter day</p></div>
<p>In fact, when I pressed the rod/reel/case combo into Singlebarbed&#8217;s beefy paws, I told him not to dissolve the reel in any of that toxic sludge he fishes; I might want to buy it.</p>
<p>Whether I do or not depends largely on my mood. The MSRP of the Rise is $159, which puts it in the same range as the impressively engineered Lamson Konic reel and a host of other competitors.</p>
<p>We could argue endlessly about which represents the better value (the machined, stylish Redington Rise or the wonderfully engineered drag of the less-sexy Konic), but it might be best to simply say you don&#8217;t have to buy a $500 fly reel to get something that works really, really well.</p>
<p><strong>The Other Goodies</strong></p>
<p>The case the combo comes in is nothing special; the cut-out vinyl window actually sinks to the level of cheesy, though it&#8217;s hardly a showstopper.</p>
<p>The <a href="http://www.rioproducts.com/product.php?recKey=49" target="_blank">Rio Mainstream fly line</a> is the one questionable component of this kit, though it&#8217;s likely a good choice for a less-experienced angler.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s one of those front-loaded lines designed to make modern graphite rods and clunky split shot rigs easier to cast (it does a passable job on big flies), but like most front-loaded lines, it&#8217;s less fun when you&#8217;re trying to carry a lot of line and the last of the belly slides out past the tip.</p>
<p>Still, it&#8217;s part of the combo, and I sure as hell wouldn&#8217;t not buy the whole shooting match because of the line. It works. And yes, it floats and picks up nicely (as all new lines do).</p>
<p><strong>The Final Word</strong></p>
<p>It&#8217;s likely the Redington RS4/Rise Reel combo will find its way into a pair of distinct markets. First is the novice fly fishermen who is morally opposed to buying a starter kit of any kind.</p>
<p>Second would be a more experienced fly fishermen looking for a backup combo or even a 6wt to rely on when it&#8217;s too windy to fish the 4wt.</p>
<div  class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 540px"><img style="border: 0pt none;" title="Reding Rise Fly Reel" src="http://troutunderground.com/images/rs4mossy.jpg" border="0" alt="Redington Fly rod and reel" width="540" height="574" /><p class="wp-caption-text">The large/mid-arbor fly reel has become the standard.</p></div>
<p>Either way, the combo is a steal for the money $410 MSRP (I found it on the Internet for <em>well</em> under $400), and the 4-pc 9&#8242; 6wt rod lists for $250 &#8211; making it a good choice for the thrifty angler, and a nice travel-sized backup when you&#8217;re heading off into the places where a broken rod means you beg your friends to use their spare (not recommended).</p>
<p>Because the rod came to me in the winter &#8211; and I&#8217;ve been fishing more small streams than 6wt-sized water &#8211; I can&#8217;t comment on the durability of the kit (outside of the fact that you <em>can</em> apparently smack it against a tree, hold your breath, and not break it).</p>
<p>And yes, it still features Redington&#8217;s lifetime warranty &#8211; a fact much appreciated by clumsy, forgetful and <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">drunken</span> hard-fishing anglers.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to pretend &#8211; even for a second &#8211; that Redington&#8217;s RS4/Rise combo is something that you absolutely have to buy.</p>
<p>Instead, I&#8217;m inclined to view it as either a really solid value right smack in the middle of the industry, or a sign that fly fishing gear has come a long ways in the past ten years &#8211; to the point that the difference between the great stuff and the &#8220;value&#8221; stuff isn&#8217;t nearly as dramatic as the price would indicate.</p>
<p>See you on the river, Tom Chandler.</p>
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