The same wacky gang who brought you the Exxon Valdeez adventure apparently spilled an “undetermined” amount of oil into the Yellowstone River; a 12″ Exxon pipeline running beneath the Yellowstone River ruptured early July 2.
The spill began near Laurel, MT (not far from Billings MT):
Emergency evacuations were conduced near the spill, though interestingly, counties farther down the river never received notification of the spill from either the state or Exxon.
More as it happens…
Exxon is the biggest of the big. They own your grandmother’s underpants and have hedged credit default swaps with Satin against the all the souls living, and dead. Understand, nothing will bring about real change regarding these matters, which is why such attrocities continue to occur. Enjoy the madness of the free market and subsequent increase in gas prices. But you don’t give a crap do you…as long as you are not in the wrong place at the wrong time you will act as you have been taught to act and not give a damn.
Blue2(Quote)
Uhhh, run out of medication?
Tom Chandler(Quote)
The OSEI Corporation has alerted the federal on scene coordinators with the Coast Guard and EPA for RRT VIII there is enough OSE II to remediate approximately 1,000,000 gallons of fuel or oil in their Dallas warehouse. OSE II was successfully tested by Exxon for the Valdez spill and was recently successfully tested by BP for the Gulf, where BP has requested the implementation of OSE II on the Gulf spill. OSE II was successfully used by the US EPA on a similar spill on the Osage Indian Reservation in Oklahoma, where a pipeline broke that crossed over the river. OSE II has successfully cleaned up over 16,000 spills since 1989, and can be used equally on fresh or salt water spills. OSE II was successfully demonstrated in Waveland Beach Mississippi on sensitive marsh grass, and OSE II cleaned up over a 5,000 gallon spill for Texaco on fresh water as well. OSE II is the non toxic first response clean up product that will quickly return the river banks to pre spill conditions
chace Smith(Quote)
@Blue2….been huffing some of them Exxon fumes out of your gas tank…have you? . Where did you get the power to run the PC on which you typed your tripe? I suppose as a true “blue2″ enviromentalist/anti-capitalist you walk to work and never, ever take fossil fueld transportation. I could name almost everthing you touch and see at any given moment that comes from petroleum…..zip your hypocricy and come down off of your high horse…we all know you are an addicted user just like all of us.
Wayne(Quote)
Wayne— Of course we are all addicted to oil, but that is n0 reason to give up on trying to improve things. The people making the most money off of oil should pay when they screw up, instead of continuing to draw from the well with no consequences until the well runs dry. It should be the same with any company making their money from the public, including drug companies and politicians
Fishing Reel(Quote)
Fishing Reel…. I fully agree. My coments were addressing the emotional screeching. I fully expect Exxon to pay big time, that is the way our civil tort system works. What gives you reason to believe they won’t? As for “The people making the most money off of oil”…..that would be you and I, through state and federal taxes, which provide infrastructure and funds for all of our little pet projects. The old evil oil company makes about .08 cents per gallon while the federal and state governments (therefore you and I) make several dollars per gallon. So, let’s all take a long look in the mirror….that’s all I’m saying.
Wayne(Quote)
” “The people making the most money off of oilâ€â€¦..that would be you and I, through state and federal taxes, which provide infrastructure and funds for all of our little pet projects. The old evil oil company makes about .08 cents per gallon while the federal and state governments (therefore you and I) make several dollars per gallon. So, let’s all take a long look in the mirror….that’s all I’m saying.”
I believe that you have your facts backwards. Taxpayers actually subsidize oil companies while congress keeps cutting programs for education and medicare for the elderly people that have worked and paid taxes all of their lives. During the meeting, details emerged of how oil companies, after making record profits last year, are still getting tax breaks crafted in 1918, which were designed to offset production costs for the then-newly emerging industry.
“Other subsidies, such as the Deep Water Royalty Relief Act, passed in 1995 when oil prices were just $18/barrel, is still in effect today, while prices are topping $100/barrel. ” —- The Epoch Times
Fishing Reel(Quote)
No….I do not have my facts backwards. Oil companies are making about 8 cents per gallon on gasoline. Federal and State taxes are triple that amount. Fuel taxes are flowing into the coffers of the state and federal treasury at a rate of billions and billions of dollars. Those same taxes go to pave the roads we use to drive to the Yellowstone. Those fuel taxes are also “subsidizing” education, medical for the elderly (Medicaid) as well as a list of other things as long as the Yellowstone itself. So…consider the feds “subsidies” a sensible investment.
Wayne(Quote)
@Wayne – Obviously, you are just spouting numbers that you must have gotten from Fox 4, or you are affiliated with the oil companies in some way. Just a quick web search brings up information from news and watchdog organizations that actually do their investigations rather just put out what someone belly-aching moron down at the coffee shop said. In case you are unable to figure out how to use Google, I have supplied some links for you.
From CNN website
“Taxes: The government takes about 40 cents right off the top, with about 18 cents going to the feds. State taxes vary widely, but the national average is about 22 cents a gallon. Most of this money is used to build and maintain roads.
Crude oil: This is the most expensive part of a gallon of gas. Of every gallon of gas $2.07 from every gallon of gas goes to producers of crude like Chevron (CVX, Fortune 500), BP (BP), and smaller outfits like Anadarko (APC, Fortune 500) and Marathon (MRO, Fortune 500), or national oil companies controlled by countries like Saudi Arabia, Mexico or Venezuela.”
NPR breakdown of a gallon of gas.
From the Huffington Post :
“On Thursday, Exxon Mobil reported net income of almost $11 billion, its best quarter since it made $14.83 billion in the July-September period of 2008. That’s the record for a publicly traded company. Also, Shell’s profit rose 60 percent to about $9 billion in the first quarter. France’s Total SA made about $5.8 billion, up 50 percent. ConocoPhillips’ earnings rose 43 percent.”
Obviously, and mathematically, you can not make a 43 percent gain on income by selling your product for less than that. If you make 43 percent profit more than what you made last year, your up-charge must be much more than that to cover costs, including labor, transportation, equipment, and payoffs to Congress people.
Sorry, I didn’t mean to get all preachy and high-horsey. When people start putting out information and calling it “facts” when it can be proven false with hardly any effort at all, it kind of gets me going. That is how wars get started, and innocent people suffer.
Fishing Reel(Quote)
Ok…number one…I didn’t call anything a “fact” I roughly estimated but it seems I came in a little low. I said oil companies make about 8 cents per gallon and the feds and states reap about three times that. I see now my figure was low and it is closer to 4 times what the oil companies take in profit. So I stand by my assertions and thank you for doing the research for me….I am a busy man. I was kinda hoping the oil company profits would have been closer to 100 Billion though…so I am somewhat disappointed with that factoid. I have no problem with any company making a profit. When you couldn’t or wouldn’t post how much the oil company reaps in profit on one gallon you made a broad leap that because they somehow had record profits that must somehow = more than 8 cents per gallon profit. I don’t quite get it. At any rate, the profits of a company don’t in any way reflect it’s earnings on a particular product. They are diversified and garner profits from investments, real estate, etc. etc. Maybe you would have more respect for them if they were a failing entity that accepted bailout funds from the morons in Congress. At any rate, I do not care to continue discussing this with you as it is totally off subject. Your original post jumped out there and made assumptions that I don’t care or the oil company won’t pay for the damage….all because I pointed out that some are participating in “emotional screeching”…..kinda like “it kind of gets me going. That is how wars get started, and innocent people suffer.”…..Exxon will clean up the mess and pay it’s damages…and the world will continue to turn…those that hate the oil companies will continue to pour money into their coffers and will continue to reap the benefits of oil…or go back to living in the dark ages…literally. BTW…your “facts” proved nothing other than my figures in reference to oil companies subsidizing the govenment were low. Have a nice day.
Wayne(Quote)