
More water time for our test boots
We’re not quite ready to spring our testing extravaganza post yet, but the Simms Vibram-soled wading boots sent for testing have been seeing more river time at the hands (or feet, actually) of a pair of local fly fishing guides.
While Dave Roberts and I thought they performed surprisingly well on the rock-snotty Rogue River, reports from local guides Wayne Eng and Steve Bertrand aren’t quite as encouraging.
First, keep in mind we’re testing the bare rubber soles – to which no screws have been added.
Screwing in a couple of Simms metal studs would likely improve their traction in difficult circumstances, though it would also negate some of the benefits of non-studded boots (they don’t make guides crazy in drift boats, you can wear them in your car without attaching yourself to the gas pedal at an inopportune time, etc)
The Guide Word
First, Wayne said “I was feeling pretty good about the new boots… until I hit the McCloud. When I needed them, they simply weren’t there for me.”
Wayne has worn the Simms boots more than I have – and generally liked them – but once he hit the bigger, rounder, smoother rocks of the McCloud, he became an unhappy camper, suggesting the grip was simply unreliable.
A couple Undergrounders commented on similar experiences on the Pit River’s devilishly difficult bigger, smoother rocks, which clearly isn’t the strong suit of the Simms boots.
Steve Bertrand has also worn the boots enough to decide that they’re “a great wading boot, just not on this river.” Bertrand bemoaned almost falling twice on an Upper Sacramento river crossing he normally handles easily while wearing Simms’ older-model studded rubber boots.
Again, everybody loves the way they work out of the water – and how they operate under most conditions – but on the bigger, smoother surfaces, the no-studs Vibram sole isn’t making the grade.
Oddly, this isn’t end-of-the-world stuff. The McCloud and Pit are notoriously difficult rivers to wade, and the fact that the Vibram rubber soles have performed this well – sans a few easily installed studs – is a promising development.
In gravelly or cobbled rock environments, the Simms soles seems to be working well. For those fishing tougher water, screwing in a few studs might just offer the best of all worlds; a long-wearing rubber sole that works better than felt in many less-challenging environments (like climbing a bank or in the snow), but still grips well in the tougher stuff.
In other words, these rubber soles are clearly an improvement over Simms’ older rubber soles, so it stands to reason they’ll also exceed the performance of the older models once you add a few studs – while lasting far longer than felt.
Patagonia Riverwalkers
Sadly, the Patagonia Riverwalker boots (subject of a review here, and possessors of a softer sole material but a less-aggressive tread) weren’t being tested on the McCloud, so a side-by-side comparison isn’t yet possible (we’re working on it).
Ian Rutter – intrigued by my earlier post about the Riverwalkers – got a pair and has been testing them on the tailwaters and small streams of Eastern Tennessee, and has decided they’re close – but that slipping (and windmilling) an extra 10% of the time probably isn’t worth it to him.
He’s especially uncomfortable with their grip on very smooth, “bedrock” style surfaces.
Like the rest of us, he loves their dry-land performance and comfort, but will probably be sticking with felt a while longer.
We’ve got our hands full simply testing two pair of rubber soled boots, but we were still intrigued to learn that Cloudveil’s boots are going for a test ride over on the roughfisher.com blog.
So many boots. So little fly fishing time.
Still, we’ll keep you posted.
See you on the test range, Tom Chandler.




























Unfortunately my new pair of sticky rubber Riverwalkers haven’t even gotten wet yet. It is a little selfish of Bertrand to be bobbing and splashing away on the Upper Sac when all our rivers are muck conduits.
WADING BOOT HINT: Replace your old fashioned laces with those stretchy rubber things. You can get a Chota “Quick-Lace” replacement kit for $6.50. Got a pair of Simms RiverTeks with those laces on them a couple years ago: very convenient and comfortable.
Stop the spread of aquatic nuisance species (including out-of- state anglers).
Sully(Quote)
There’s no problem getting these laced up as tightly? Us younger, un-retired types still wade aggressively and all, and can’t have our feet flopping around inside the boots.
And yes, Bertrand is inherently selfish – as most guides are – as he expects to go fly fishing when he’s not guiding (the bastard).
Tom Chandler(Quote)
As you may have heard, I had a slight “wardrobe malfunction” while recently Shadding with Singlebarbed.
I ordered some new hoity-toity breathable waders, but forgot to order some wading boots.
I scoured your site looking to your sage advice, but ended up going cheap and traditional and ordered a pair of Cabela’s Master Guide UltraLight felt-soled waders.
Maybe I should have waited for your “testing extravaganza.”
A. Wannabe Travelwriter(Quote)
Why didn’t you simply email? Hell, I get emails from the Undergrounders facing difficult tippet choices.
Felt boots are a safe choice from a wading standpoint, though less effective on dry rocks and dirt. They’re also a bit harder to disinfect when moving between waters, which will require additional effort on your part.
They’re also nowhere near as durable, but that might not be an issue for you.
Tom Chandler(Quote)
I like ‘em. I fish around Southern California and E. Sierra. Sometimes there’s a lot more hiking than fishing involved. Suppose all bottoms have their pros and cons — felt freezes, Vibrams don’t grip in the Pit, etc. Have to say I like them so far.
Flykuni(Quote)
Tom,
Can we get a pair of Korkers boots into the ring please?
Along with our many different sole options, we also have a new sticky rubber sole called Kling-On. We’d love to get you guys a pair so we can be included in this.
-Nick
Nick(Quote)
Tom,
As your review points out, every river system has different conditions that a rubber sole doesn’t address. Korkers provides a unique performance solution for preventing the spread of invasive species while enhancing angler safety. The OmniTraxâ„¢ Interchangeable Sole System offers anglers the ability to choose the condition specific performance outsole that optimizes the fishing experience. Korkers believes felt remains the best solution for traction in the river and can be used responsibly in support of the Clean Angling Pledge. Owning multiple soles, from felt to sticky rubber, empowers anglers to approach and fish the river knowing they aren’t compromising the environment itself.
Brian(Quote)
I think the new rubber soles are way, way ahead of felt for hiking/bluelining/small stream work.
I’m tempted to disqualify Korker from further testing due to the Star Trek themed product name, but damnit, I’m in a good mood, so yeah. I sent an email.
Tom Chandler(Quote)
Brian wrote: “Owning multiple soles… empowers anglers to approach and fish the river …â€
I’m sorry Brian, but I don’t believe that owning a pair (or more) of a particular wading boot sole empowers anyone to do anything. I’m reluctant to even try them now.
Sorry. Unlike Tom, I’m feeling a bit cranky today, and that word always hits me like nails on a chalkboard.
SMJ(Quote)
I just bought a pair from Bob at Ted Fay.
Never even thought to try them without the studs as I’ve been down that road and earned a nickname on the Klamath in the process — SPLASH.
My first day out was the MAC: even with most of the studs in (I copied the pattern off the Weinbrenners) it was a treacherous day. I put in the rest of the studs that night.
I’ve since fished the SAC a bunch and they wade great on those rocks.
I gave them the true test last week on the upper Klamath which is the epitomy of snot covered rocks — they held great and now I’m sold. They walk much better than the Weinbrenners as the studs are way lower profile than other studs I’ve used. Now we’ll see how long they last.
andy marx(Quote)
‘Fraid it sounds like studded felt is still the ultimate solution for slick stream beds. I’m still nursing along a pair of of Patagucci Beefy Wading Shoes and starting to think any other boot will be a disappointment, traction wise.
Here’s a thought, from a product development perspective: Why doesn’t somebody come out with a kit including a 4-6 oz spray bottle and 50 or 100 little tablets that dissolve in the bottle’s water to make plenty of sanitizing solution for spraying felt boots down? Simms could easily sell that for $24, Orvis for $19.99.
Cliff Graham(Quote)
Thanks for the info. I was holding out for a no-stud boot, but clearly, that’s not going to fly on the tougher rivers.
It’s a good idea, though I’m not sure they’ve found something that kills all the different invasives (whirling, rock snot, mud snails, etc).
Instead of a spray, how about a small nuclear device that would irradiate the boots, killing everything (including your feet if they happen to inside at the time).
Tom Chandler(Quote)
Tom,
There ARE less arthritic waders than your faithful correspondent.
However, it is difficult to conceive of anyone applying enough torque to twist in wading boots once the rubber laces are drawn up tight. Does Usain Bolt do a lot of training on the Pitt?
In fact, wading boot laces working loose used to be an irritation- no more.
By the way, who else has waded across the Haast? Thought so hotshots.
Sully(Quote)