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	<title>Comments on: The Great Rubber-Soled Wading Boot Test Continues: The Guides Weigh In</title>
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		<title>By: Sully</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sully</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 21:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, 
There ARE less arthritic waders than your faithful correspondent.  
However, it is difficult to conceive of anyone applying enough torque to twist in  wading boots once the rubber laces are drawn up tight. Does Usain Bolt do a lot of training on the Pitt?  
In fact,  wading boot laces working loose used to be an irritation- no more.

By the way,  who else has waded across the Haast? Thought so hotshots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,<br />
There ARE less arthritic waders than your faithful correspondent.<br />
However, it is difficult to conceive of anyone applying enough torque to twist in  wading boots once the rubber laces are drawn up tight. Does Usain Bolt do a lot of training on the Pitt?<br />
In fact,  wading boot laces working loose used to be an irritation- no more.</p>
<p>By the way,  who else has waded across the Haast? Thought so hotshots.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Chandler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Chandler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 02:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-55500&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-55500&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;andy marx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: I gave them the true test last week on the upper Klamath which is the epitomy of snot covered rocks — they held great and now I’m sold. They walk much better than the Weinbrenners as the studs are way lower profile than other studs I’ve used. Now we’ll see how long they last.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thanks for the info. I was holding out for a no-stud boot, but clearly, that&#039;s not going to fly on the tougher rivers.



&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-55504&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-55504&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cliff Graham&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: Why doesn’t somebody come out with a kit including a 4-6 oz spray bottle and 50 or 100 little tablets that dissolve in the bottle’s water to make plenty of sanitizing solution for spraying felt boots down? 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s a good idea, though I&#039;m not sure they&#039;ve found something that kills all the different invasives (whirling, rock snot, mud snails, etc). 

Instead of a spray, how about a small nuclear device that would irradiate the boots, killing &lt;i&gt;everything&lt;/i&gt; (including your feet if they happen to inside at the time).</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-55500" rel="nofollow">andy marx</a></strong>: I gave them the true test last week on the upper Klamath which is the epitomy of snot covered rocks — they held great and now I’m sold. They walk much better than the Weinbrenners as the studs are way lower profile than other studs I’ve used. Now we’ll see how long they last.
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<p>Thanks for the info. I was holding out for a no-stud boot, but clearly, that&#8217;s not going to fly on the tougher rivers.</p>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-55504" rel="nofollow">Cliff Graham</a></strong>: Why doesn’t somebody come out with a kit including a 4-6 oz spray bottle and 50 or 100 little tablets that dissolve in the bottle’s water to make plenty of sanitizing solution for spraying felt boots down?
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<p>It&#8217;s a good idea, though I&#8217;m not sure they&#8217;ve found something that kills all the different invasives (whirling, rock snot, mud snails, etc). </p>
<p>Instead of a spray, how about a small nuclear device that would irradiate the boots, killing <i>everything</i> (including your feet if they happen to inside at the time).</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cliff Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 02:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Fraid it sounds like studded felt is still the ultimate solution for slick stream beds. I&#039;m still nursing along a pair of of Patagucci Beefy Wading Shoes and starting to think any other boot will be a disappointment, traction wise.

Here&#039;s a thought, from a product development perspective: Why doesn&#039;t somebody come out with a kit including a 4-6 oz spray bottle and 50 or 100 little tablets that dissolve in the bottle&#039;s water to make plenty of sanitizing solution for spraying felt boots down? Simms could easily sell that for $24, Orvis for $19.99.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Fraid it sounds like studded felt is still the ultimate solution for slick stream beds. I&#8217;m still nursing along a pair of of Patagucci Beefy Wading Shoes and starting to think any other boot will be a disappointment, traction wise.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a thought, from a product development perspective: Why doesn&#8217;t somebody come out with a kit including a 4-6 oz spray bottle and 50 or 100 little tablets that dissolve in the bottle&#8217;s water to make plenty of sanitizing solution for spraying felt boots down? Simms could easily sell that for $24, Orvis for $19.99.</p>
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		<title>By: andy marx</title>
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		<dc:creator>andy marx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 00:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just bought a pair from Bob at Ted Fay.

Never even thought to try them without the studs as I&#039;ve been down that road and earned a nickname on the Klamath in the process  -- SPLASH.    

My first day out was the MAC:  even with most of the studs in (I copied the pattern off the Weinbrenners) it was a treacherous day.  I put in the rest of the studs that night.

I&#039;ve since fished the SAC a bunch and they wade great on those rocks. 

I gave them the true test last week on the upper Klamath which is the epitomy of snot covered rocks -- they held great and now I&#039;m sold.  They walk much better than the Weinbrenners as the studs are way lower profile than other studs I&#039;ve used.  Now we&#039;ll see how long they last.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just bought a pair from Bob at Ted Fay.</p>
<p>Never even thought to try them without the studs as I&#8217;ve been down that road and earned a nickname on the Klamath in the process  &#8212; SPLASH.    </p>
<p>My first day out was the MAC:  even with most of the studs in (I copied the pattern off the Weinbrenners) it was a treacherous day.  I put in the rest of the studs that night.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve since fished the SAC a bunch and they wade great on those rocks. </p>
<p>I gave them the true test last week on the upper Klamath which is the epitomy of snot covered rocks &#8212; they held great and now I&#8217;m sold.  They walk much better than the Weinbrenners as the studs are way lower profile than other studs I&#8217;ve used.  Now we&#8217;ll see how long they last.</p>
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		<title>By: SMJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>SMJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 21:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian wrote:  “Owning multiple soles… empowers anglers to approach and fish the river …”

I’m sorry Brian, but I don’t believe that owning a pair (or more) of a particular wading boot sole empowers anyone to do anything.  I’m reluctant to even try them now.  

Sorry.  Unlike Tom, I&#039;m feeling a bit cranky today, and that word always hits me like nails on a chalkboard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian wrote:  “Owning multiple soles… empowers anglers to approach and fish the river …”</p>
<p>I’m sorry Brian, but I don’t believe that owning a pair (or more) of a particular wading boot sole empowers anyone to do anything.  I’m reluctant to even try them now.  </p>
<p>Sorry.  Unlike Tom, I&#8217;m feeling a bit cranky today, and that word always hits me like nails on a chalkboard.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Chandler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Chandler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 20:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-55489&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-55489&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Flykuni&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: I like ‘em. I fish around Southern California and E. Sierra. Sometimes there’s a lot more hiking than fishing involved.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think the new rubber soles are way, way ahead of felt for hiking/bluelining/small stream work. 



&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-55490&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-55490&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nick&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: Tom,
Can we get a pair of Korkers boots into the ring please?
Along with our many different sole options, we also have a new sticky rubber sole called Kling-On. We’d love to get you guys a pair so we can be included in this.
-Nick

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m tempted to disqualify Korker from further testing due to the Star Trek themed product name, but damnit, I&#039;m in a good mood, so yeah. I sent an email.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-55489" rel="nofollow">Flykuni</a></strong>: I like ‘em. I fish around Southern California and E. Sierra. Sometimes there’s a lot more hiking than fishing involved.
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<p>I think the new rubber soles are way, way ahead of felt for hiking/bluelining/small stream work. </p>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-55490" rel="nofollow">Nick</a></strong>: Tom,<br />
Can we get a pair of Korkers boots into the ring please?<br />
Along with our many different sole options, we also have a new sticky rubber sole called Kling-On. We’d love to get you guys a pair so we can be included in this.<br />
-Nick</p>
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<p>I&#8217;m tempted to disqualify Korker from further testing due to the Star Trek themed product name, but damnit, I&#8217;m in a good mood, so yeah. I sent an email.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom,

As your review points out, every river system has different conditions that a rubber sole doesn&#039;t address.  Korkers provides a unique performance solution for preventing the spread of invasive species while enhancing angler safety.  The OmniTrax™ Interchangeable Sole System offers anglers the ability to choose the condition specific performance outsole that optimizes the fishing experience. Korkers believes felt remains the best solution for traction in the river and can be used responsibly in support of the Clean Angling Pledge. Owning multiple soles, from felt to sticky rubber, empowers anglers to approach and fish the river knowing they aren’t compromising the environment itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,</p>
<p>As your review points out, every river system has different conditions that a rubber sole doesn&#8217;t address.  Korkers provides a unique performance solution for preventing the spread of invasive species while enhancing angler safety.  The OmniTrax™ Interchangeable Sole System offers anglers the ability to choose the condition specific performance outsole that optimizes the fishing experience. Korkers believes felt remains the best solution for traction in the river and can be used responsibly in support of the Clean Angling Pledge. Owning multiple soles, from felt to sticky rubber, empowers anglers to approach and fish the river knowing they aren’t compromising the environment itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, 

Can we get a pair of Korkers boots into the ring please?
Along with our many different sole options, we also have a new sticky rubber sole called Kling-On. We&#039;d love to get you guys a pair so we can be included in this. 

-Nick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, </p>
<p>Can we get a pair of Korkers boots into the ring please?<br />
Along with our many different sole options, we also have a new sticky rubber sole called Kling-On. We&#8217;d love to get you guys a pair so we can be included in this. </p>
<p>-Nick</p>
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		<title>By: Flykuni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flykuni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 18:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like &#039;em. I fish around Southern California and E. Sierra. Sometimes there&#039;s a lot more hiking than fishing involved. Suppose all bottoms have their pros and cons -- felt freezes, Vibrams don&#039;t grip in the Pit, etc. Have to say I like them so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like &#8216;em. I fish around Southern California and E. Sierra. Sometimes there&#8217;s a lot more hiking than fishing involved. Suppose all bottoms have their pros and cons &#8212; felt freezes, Vibrams don&#8217;t grip in the Pit, etc. Have to say I like them so far.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Chandler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Chandler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 18:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-55487&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-55487&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A. Wannabe Travelwriter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: I scoured your site looking to your sage advice, but ended up going cheap and traditional and ordered a pair of Cabela’s Master Guide UltraLight felt-soled waders.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why didn&#039;t you simply email? Hell, I get emails from the Undergrounders facing difficult tippet choices. 

Felt boots are a safe choice from a wading standpoint, though less effective on dry rocks and dirt. They&#039;re also a bit harder to disinfect when moving between waters, which will require additional effort on your part. 

They&#039;re also nowhere near as durable, but that might not be an issue for you.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-55487" rel="nofollow">A. Wannabe Travelwriter</a></strong>: I scoured your site looking to your sage advice, but ended up going cheap and traditional and ordered a pair of Cabela’s Master Guide UltraLight felt-soled waders.
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<p>Why didn&#8217;t you simply email? Hell, I get emails from the Undergrounders facing difficult tippet choices. </p>
<p>Felt boots are a safe choice from a wading standpoint, though less effective on dry rocks and dirt. They&#8217;re also a bit harder to disinfect when moving between waters, which will require additional effort on your part. </p>
<p>They&#8217;re also nowhere near as durable, but that might not be an issue for you.</p>
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		<title>By: A. Wannabe Travelwriter</title>
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		<dc:creator>A. Wannabe Travelwriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you may have heard, I had a slight &quot;wardrobe malfunction&quot; while &lt;a href=&quot;http://sanddollaradventures.wordpress.com/2009/05/27/my-wet-crotch-wasnt-my-only-complaint/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;recently Shadding with Singlebarbed&lt;/a&gt;.

I ordered some new hoity-toity breathable waders, but forgot to order some wading boots.  

I scoured your site looking to your sage advice, but ended up going cheap and traditional and ordered a pair of Cabela&#039;s Master Guide UltraLight felt-soled waders.

Maybe I should have waited for your &quot;testing extravaganza.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you may have heard, I had a slight &#8220;wardrobe malfunction&#8221; while <a href="http://sanddollaradventures.wordpress.com/2009/05/27/my-wet-crotch-wasnt-my-only-complaint/" rel="nofollow">recently Shadding with Singlebarbed</a>.</p>
<p>I ordered some new hoity-toity breathable waders, but forgot to order some wading boots.  </p>
<p>I scoured your site looking to your sage advice, but ended up going cheap and traditional and ordered a pair of Cabela&#8217;s Master Guide UltraLight felt-soled waders.</p>
<p>Maybe I should have waited for your &#8220;testing extravaganza.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Chandler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Chandler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-55483&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-55483&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sully&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: WADING BOOT HINT: Replace your old fashioned laces with those stretchy rubber things. You can get a Chota “Quick-Lace” replacement kit for $6.50
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There&#039;s no problem getting these laced up as tightly? Us younger, un-retired types still wade aggressively and all, and can&#039;t have our feet flopping around inside the boots. 

And yes, Bertrand is inherently selfish - as most guides are - as he expects to go fly fishing when he&#039;s not guiding (the bastard).</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-55483" rel="nofollow">Sully</a></strong>: WADING BOOT HINT: Replace your old fashioned laces with those stretchy rubber things. You can get a Chota “Quick-Lace” replacement kit for $6.50
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<p>There&#8217;s no problem getting these laced up as tightly? Us younger, un-retired types still wade aggressively and all, and can&#8217;t have our feet flopping around inside the boots. </p>
<p>And yes, Bertrand is inherently selfish &#8211; as most guides are &#8211; as he expects to go fly fishing when he&#8217;s not guiding (the bastard).</p>
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		<title>By: Sully</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sully</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately my new pair of sticky rubber Riverwalkers haven&#039;t even gotten wet yet.  It is a little selfish of Bertrand to be bobbing and splashing away on the Upper Sac when all our rivers are  muck conduits.

WADING BOOT HINT:  Replace your old fashioned laces with those stretchy rubber things.  You can get a Chota &quot;Quick-Lace&quot; replacement kit for  $6.50.   Got a pair of  Simms RiverTeks  with those laces on them a couple years ago: very convenient and comfortable.  

Stop the spread of aquatic nuisance species  (including out-of- state anglers).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately my new pair of sticky rubber Riverwalkers haven&#8217;t even gotten wet yet.  It is a little selfish of Bertrand to be bobbing and splashing away on the Upper Sac when all our rivers are  muck conduits.</p>
<p>WADING BOOT HINT:  Replace your old fashioned laces with those stretchy rubber things.  You can get a Chota &#8220;Quick-Lace&#8221; replacement kit for  $6.50.   Got a pair of  Simms RiverTeks  with those laces on them a couple years ago: very convenient and comfortable.  </p>
<p>Stop the spread of aquatic nuisance species  (including out-of- state anglers).</p>
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