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	<title>Comments on: Bassmasters Classic: A Good Model for Fly Fishing, Or Nightmare Scenario?</title>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think anyone has to worry about the buba&#039;s allowing fly casters in. I have been a fly fishing guide, outdoorsman, did a show here and there on espn,,,and make no mistake ESPN/BASS has no plans to ever have a fly rod only tournament. FLW won&#039;t comment, though if you read their rules, and can make up a short enough rod and get your crank and chug partner to go along with it you can fly fish. 

most of the regional circuits fish under &quot; BASS &quot; rules so on that level, there is little chance. I do wonder why Sage now prmotes a rod that is allowable on the BASS circuit, when its not an allowed method of fishing 

Going back into to the middle 70&#039; the original BASS out of Ala, did have 1 day fly fishing events before the 3 day pro series. It lasted 1 year, and as Dewey Kendrick told me way back then, not to worry mike as good as fly fishing is, this type of fishing will be back, so much for that idea. 

over the years, myself along with some others from the fly fishing world have gone off to do charity events, gotten with clubs to promote a fly fishing only events its all been good, I still dont see what the big deal is. 

it makes you wonder how effective that spinner bait fly would be dropped along a cut bank with a huge bass slurping it in, while your crank baiting buddy comes up empty handed 

if by some weird chance a Bass fly rod series starts up please someone let me know I will be there

all the best Capt Michael Farnham 
Bass on the Fly , Mid Atlantic Fly fishing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone has to worry about the buba&#8217;s allowing fly casters in. I have been a fly fishing guide, outdoorsman, did a show here and there on espn,,,and make no mistake ESPN/BASS has no plans to ever have a fly rod only tournament. FLW won&#8217;t comment, though if you read their rules, and can make up a short enough rod and get your crank and chug partner to go along with it you can fly fish. </p>
<p>most of the regional circuits fish under &#8221; BASS &#8221; rules so on that level, there is little chance. I do wonder why Sage now prmotes a rod that is allowable on the BASS circuit, when its not an allowed method of fishing </p>
<p>Going back into to the middle 70&#8242; the original BASS out of Ala, did have 1 day fly fishing events before the 3 day pro series. It lasted 1 year, and as Dewey Kendrick told me way back then, not to worry mike as good as fly fishing is, this type of fishing will be back, so much for that idea. </p>
<p>over the years, myself along with some others from the fly fishing world have gone off to do charity events, gotten with clubs to promote a fly fishing only events its all been good, I still dont see what the big deal is. </p>
<p>it makes you wonder how effective that spinner bait fly would be dropped along a cut bank with a huge bass slurping it in, while your crank baiting buddy comes up empty handed </p>
<p>if by some weird chance a Bass fly rod series starts up please someone let me know I will be there</p>
<p>all the best Capt Michael Farnham<br />
Bass on the Fly , Mid Atlantic Fly fishing</p>
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		<title>By: The Tennessee Valley Angler &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Fly Fishing Tournaments?</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Tennessee Valley Angler &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Fly Fishing Tournaments?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tom Chandler over at TroutUnderground recently posed the question: What if Bassmaster-style competition came to fly fishing? Would that be a good thing? There were lots of responses to the question. Some were for it, some against it, some sickened by it, some took advantage of the opportunity to joke around. What is puzzling is why no one asked the more important question: What does Hawgdaddy think about it? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Tom Chandler over at TroutUnderground recently posed the question: What if Bassmaster-style competition came to fly fishing? Would that be a good thing? There were lots of responses to the question. Some were for it, some against it, some sickened by it, some took advantage of the opportunity to joke around. What is puzzling is why no one asked the more important question: What does Hawgdaddy think about it? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Chandler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Chandler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 00:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember the ESPN Outdoor Games; I couldn&#039;t bring myself to watch the fly fishing competitions for more than a few minutes, but remember finding the dog (retriever) competitions to be wholly fascinating. 

From a purely intellectual and visual perspective, fly fishing&#039;s a little like chess; the higher up the competitive food chain you go, the less understandable the sport becomes to the average fan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember the ESPN Outdoor Games; I couldn&#8217;t bring myself to watch the fly fishing competitions for more than a few minutes, but remember finding the dog (retriever) competitions to be wholly fascinating. </p>
<p>From a purely intellectual and visual perspective, fly fishing&#8217;s a little like chess; the higher up the competitive food chain you go, the less understandable the sport becomes to the average fan.</p>
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		<title>By: FishyFireman</title>
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		<dc:creator>FishyFireman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was already an ESPN outdoor games competition or something along those lines that took place on a river in PA and the little truckee river in CA. If you watched either of those( for some reason I did) it was a tell tale example of a how lousy and boring it would be. I am of the school of thought that fly fishing needs some promotion and definetly some interest to a  younger generation, but there has to be a better way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was already an ESPN outdoor games competition or something along those lines that took place on a river in PA and the little truckee river in CA. If you watched either of those( for some reason I did) it was a tell tale example of a how lousy and boring it would be. I am of the school of thought that fly fishing needs some promotion and definetly some interest to a  younger generation, but there has to be a better way.</p>
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		<title>By: ijsouth</title>
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		<dc:creator>ijsouth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 01:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember seeing something on, I believe, Versus, that was an attempt at tournament fly fishing - two man teams from different areas of the country, etc.  The finals were on a pellet-enhanced stream in North Georgia.  The fish were measured then released on the spot.  To me, it seemed a bit silly.

I cut my teeth bass fishing, and I still enjoy going for them.  As Ben Hogan once said about comparing tournament golf with the average golf played on a weekend, it&#039;s two different sports.  I watched the finals of the Bass Masters Classic last night, and what those guys were doing could not be described as &quot;recreation&quot;.  It certainly wasn&#039;t like the bass fishing I did as a kid.

I don&#039;t think we&#039;ll have much to worry - I can&#039;t see tournament fishing transferring to fly fishing - it just doesn&#039;t mesh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember seeing something on, I believe, Versus, that was an attempt at tournament fly fishing &#8211; two man teams from different areas of the country, etc.  The finals were on a pellet-enhanced stream in North Georgia.  The fish were measured then released on the spot.  To me, it seemed a bit silly.</p>
<p>I cut my teeth bass fishing, and I still enjoy going for them.  As Ben Hogan once said about comparing tournament golf with the average golf played on a weekend, it&#8217;s two different sports.  I watched the finals of the Bass Masters Classic last night, and what those guys were doing could not be described as &#8220;recreation&#8221;.  It certainly wasn&#8217;t like the bass fishing I did as a kid.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;ll have much to worry &#8211; I can&#8217;t see tournament fishing transferring to fly fishing &#8211; it just doesn&#8217;t mesh.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Chandler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Chandler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter;

That book is the Kindle edition (amazon&#039;s e-book reader), so don&#039;t buy it unless you&#039;ve got one.

An excellent older book on the same subject is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0595007376?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=thetrouunde-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0595007376&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bass Wars: A Story of Fishing Fame and Fortune&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thetrouunde-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0595007376&quot; width=&quot;1&quot; height=&quot;1&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; style=&quot;border:none !important; margin:0px !important;&quot; /&gt; written by Nick Taylor. 

What&#039;s true about competitive fishing it that it&#039;s largely taken over the sport of bass fishing. Would the same be true of fly fishing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter;</p>
<p>That book is the Kindle edition (amazon&#8217;s e-book reader), so don&#8217;t buy it unless you&#8217;ve got one.</p>
<p>An excellent older book on the same subject is <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0595007376?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=thetrouunde-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325&#038;creativeASIN=0595007376" rel="nofollow">Bass Wars: A Story of Fishing Fame and Fortune</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thetrouunde-20&#038;l=as2&#038;o=1&#038;a=0595007376" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" /> written by Nick Taylor. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s true about competitive fishing it that it&#8217;s largely taken over the sport of bass fishing. Would the same be true of fly fishing?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Eisch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Eisch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I once read that fishing and sex had this in common: If you&#039;re competing at it, you&#039;re doing it wrong. I agree with that in principle. Although when my buddy and I fish the one who does least well buys the beer afterwards. We have no firm definition of what &quot;least well&quot; is.

If this idea ever *did* become successful in fly fishing, a good idea of what it&#039;d be like can be found by reading:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Bass-Madness-Bigmouths-Bassmaster-Classic/dp/B000W2SU0I/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1203970806&amp;sr=8-5&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bass Madness: Bigmouths, Big Money, and Big Dreams at the Bassmaster Classic&lt;/a&gt; (Kindle edition)

This was one of the funniest and saddest books I read last year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I once read that fishing and sex had this in common: If you&#8217;re competing at it, you&#8217;re doing it wrong. I agree with that in principle. Although when my buddy and I fish the one who does least well buys the beer afterwards. We have no firm definition of what &#8220;least well&#8221; is.</p>
<p>If this idea ever *did* become successful in fly fishing, a good idea of what it&#8217;d be like can be found by reading:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Bass-Madness-Bigmouths-Bassmaster-Classic/dp/B000W2SU0I/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1203970806&amp;sr=8-5" rel="nofollow">Bass Madness: Bigmouths, Big Money, and Big Dreams at the Bassmaster Classic</a> (Kindle edition)</p>
<p>This was one of the funniest and saddest books I read last year.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Chandler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Chandler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa, dudes. We got actual thoughtful commentary here (OK, the bikini thing&#039;s borderline, though accurate). I love it all.

It&#039;s an interesting idea that fewer of us could do more with less (courtesy the Internet I gather).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa, dudes. We got actual thoughtful commentary here (OK, the bikini thing&#8217;s borderline, though accurate). I love it all.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an interesting idea that fewer of us could do more with less (courtesy the Internet I gather).</p>
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		<title>By: SMJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>SMJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give a bunch of cheerleaders in bikinis fly rods and put them in a cold river, and sure, I’d watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give a bunch of cheerleaders in bikinis fly rods and put them in a cold river, and sure, I’d watch.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave N</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T. Chandler once again nails it on the head, &quot;adding a competitive angle doesn’t enhance the experience.&quot;

That&#039;s what I try to convey to my clients who are intent on the friendly comp between pals...largest fish, most fish etc...

&quot;Well, how about let&#039;s just enjoy going fishing, together, quietly.?&quot;  

As far as increased viewer/user base &quot;saving&quot; our troubled waters (nobody mentioned this, but it often comes at defense of &quot;popularizing&quot; fly fishing) I call bullshit.  100,000 more anglers &quot;slaying&quot; it every weekend on your local stream does nothing.  I say let our &quot;sport&quot; have some attrition.  Seperate the posers.  Those of us left who truly love this &quot;sport&quot; need to rally like hell and ALL GET INVOLVED to fight for what&#039;s right. 

Again, to quote Tom: &quot;It’s “new” media outlets - blogs, a few of the video guys, and the other emerging online channels — that are providing the emerging bully pulpit. 

Television has always been sold to the highest bidder, and though a few conservation organizations mount shows (Theodore Roosevelt Foundation, TU, etc), it’s done damned little to save fisheries.&quot;  I totally agree.

Adding more bodies to a war is old school tactics that never worked.  We need to become lean, mean and efficient in our politics and our partnerships to save what&#039;s left and improve what we have.  I mean come on, what is truly good for any fishery also has intrinsic values beyond the success of the just the fishery.

Wow, sorry if I&#039;m a little O.T...as far as fly fishing comps...yeah they are pretty gegh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T. Chandler once again nails it on the head, &#8220;adding a competitive angle doesn’t enhance the experience.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I try to convey to my clients who are intent on the friendly comp between pals&#8230;largest fish, most fish etc&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Well, how about let&#8217;s just enjoy going fishing, together, quietly.?&#8221;  </p>
<p>As far as increased viewer/user base &#8220;saving&#8221; our troubled waters (nobody mentioned this, but it often comes at defense of &#8220;popularizing&#8221; fly fishing) I call bullshit.  100,000 more anglers &#8220;slaying&#8221; it every weekend on your local stream does nothing.  I say let our &#8220;sport&#8221; have some attrition.  Seperate the posers.  Those of us left who truly love this &#8220;sport&#8221; need to rally like hell and ALL GET INVOLVED to fight for what&#8217;s right. </p>
<p>Again, to quote Tom: &#8220;It’s “new” media outlets &#8211; blogs, a few of the video guys, and the other emerging online channels — that are providing the emerging bully pulpit. </p>
<p>Television has always been sold to the highest bidder, and though a few conservation organizations mount shows (Theodore Roosevelt Foundation, TU, etc), it’s done damned little to save fisheries.&#8221;  I totally agree.</p>
<p>Adding more bodies to a war is old school tactics that never worked.  We need to become lean, mean and efficient in our politics and our partnerships to save what&#8217;s left and improve what we have.  I mean come on, what is truly good for any fishery also has intrinsic values beyond the success of the just the fishery.</p>
<p>Wow, sorry if I&#8217;m a little O.T&#8230;as far as fly fishing comps&#8230;yeah they are pretty gegh.</p>
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		<title>By: kbarton10</title>
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		<dc:creator>kbarton10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Point taken, but I&#039;m having none of it...

&quot;Catch and Release&quot; is a good thing, it doesn&#039;t matter what the motivation was - the fact that it&#039;s an accepted practise is the goal. BASS was able to convey that message inside of a decade to its legions of followers - via the Tube.

The &quot;average guy&quot; - the citizen that doesn&#039;t even fish, gets the bulk of his media from the Boob tube. He doesn&#039;t read newspapers, he stopped subscibing to magazines, and on occasion he has substituted a web site for a periodical. Even the web is going &quot;video&quot; in its interaction with humans - it&#039;s obvious that full motion video is the preferred medium.

We need access to that same platform if we&#039;re wanting to get heard.

We&#039;re agreed on mainstream fly fishing media, they serve little purpose - save themselves, and as a tool for the vendor community.

TV requires vast sums of money, which is unheard of in our little &quot;niche&quot; sport. The only thing we have that&#039;s worth those dollars is the spectacle we can generate; make it compelling enough (and carbon neutral) and we may find an audience.

What&#039;s plain is the stage is set for some simple folk, evidenced by the below snippet from a foreign journalist covering the BassMaster:

&quot;Yet none of the competitors I met at &quot;meet the media&quot; (300 of us) was lining up excuses. No blaming their travelling, sponsor commitments, boat, tackle, last night&#039;s party or the ref (in this case, God). I can&#039;t remember the last footballer I interviewed who said: &quot;If there&#039;s anything else I can help you with, here&#039;s my mobile and home number. Thank you for your time,&quot; as did at least six of my interviewees.&quot;

Richard Petty nearly achieved &quot;diety&quot; status, and a couple of toothy fly fishermen on a Cheerios box couldn&#039;t hurt our cause one bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point taken, but I&#8217;m having none of it&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Catch and Release&#8221; is a good thing, it doesn&#8217;t matter what the motivation was &#8211; the fact that it&#8217;s an accepted practise is the goal. BASS was able to convey that message inside of a decade to its legions of followers &#8211; via the Tube.</p>
<p>The &#8220;average guy&#8221; &#8211; the citizen that doesn&#8217;t even fish, gets the bulk of his media from the Boob tube. He doesn&#8217;t read newspapers, he stopped subscibing to magazines, and on occasion he has substituted a web site for a periodical. Even the web is going &#8220;video&#8221; in its interaction with humans &#8211; it&#8217;s obvious that full motion video is the preferred medium.</p>
<p>We need access to that same platform if we&#8217;re wanting to get heard.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re agreed on mainstream fly fishing media, they serve little purpose &#8211; save themselves, and as a tool for the vendor community.</p>
<p>TV requires vast sums of money, which is unheard of in our little &#8220;niche&#8221; sport. The only thing we have that&#8217;s worth those dollars is the spectacle we can generate; make it compelling enough (and carbon neutral) and we may find an audience.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s plain is the stage is set for some simple folk, evidenced by the below snippet from a foreign journalist covering the BassMaster:</p>
<p>&#8220;Yet none of the competitors I met at &#8220;meet the media&#8221; (300 of us) was lining up excuses. No blaming their travelling, sponsor commitments, boat, tackle, last night&#8217;s party or the ref (in this case, God). I can&#8217;t remember the last footballer I interviewed who said: &#8220;If there&#8217;s anything else I can help you with, here&#8217;s my mobile and home number. Thank you for your time,&#8221; as did at least six of my interviewees.&#8221;</p>
<p>Richard Petty nearly achieved &#8220;diety&#8221; status, and a couple of toothy fly fishermen on a Cheerios box couldn&#8217;t hurt our cause one bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Chandler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Chandler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kbarton, I don&#039;t buy it. Catch &amp; release was promoted by the BASS guys to make tournaments more palatable; locals and fisheries managers weren&#039;t about to let tournaments descend on a lake, kill 10 fish from each boat, and then move on. 

If our mainstream media is dismissed out of hand, it&#039;s because it&#039;s an assemblage of bland, lightweight content. In truth, the mainstream fly fishing media rely on others to do fly fishing&#039;s heavy environmental lifting while they focus on printing &quot;conflict of interest&quot; destination stories and warm, comfy gear reviews. 

It&#039;s &quot;new&quot; media outlets - blogs, a few of the video guys, and the other emerging online channels -- that are providing the emerging bully pulpit. 

Television has always been sold to the highest bidder, and though a few conservation organizations mount shows (Theodore Roosevelt Foundation, TU, etc), it&#039;s done damned little to save fisheries. 

That&#039;s why the TV angle escapes me; imagine what little we&#039;d know about the Pebble Mine disaster, TU national&#039;s attempt to end access lawsuits, the Klamath dams issue, and a host of others if we relied on mainstream ff mags (FR&amp;R excepted) and weekend television...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kbarton, I don&#8217;t buy it. Catch &#038; release was promoted by the BASS guys to make tournaments more palatable; locals and fisheries managers weren&#8217;t about to let tournaments descend on a lake, kill 10 fish from each boat, and then move on. </p>
<p>If our mainstream media is dismissed out of hand, it&#8217;s because it&#8217;s an assemblage of bland, lightweight content. In truth, the mainstream fly fishing media rely on others to do fly fishing&#8217;s heavy environmental lifting while they focus on printing &#8220;conflict of interest&#8221; destination stories and warm, comfy gear reviews. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s &#8220;new&#8221; media outlets &#8211; blogs, a few of the video guys, and the other emerging online channels &#8212; that are providing the emerging bully pulpit. </p>
<p>Television has always been sold to the highest bidder, and though a few conservation organizations mount shows (Theodore Roosevelt Foundation, TU, etc), it&#8217;s done damned little to save fisheries. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s why the TV angle escapes me; imagine what little we&#8217;d know about the Pebble Mine disaster, TU national&#8217;s attempt to end access lawsuits, the Klamath dams issue, and a host of others if we relied on mainstream ff mags (FR&#038;R excepted) and weekend television&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Spirito</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Spirito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I quit bASS fishing because of all of the houligans on the lakes. bASS boats and beer cans. Please don&#039;t take away my walk in the woods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I quit bASS fishing because of all of the houligans on the lakes. bASS boats and beer cans. Please don&#8217;t take away my walk in the woods.</p>
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		<title>By: kbarton10</title>
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		<dc:creator>kbarton10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 15:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bah, Wimps!

I don&#039;t buy the &quot;quiet sport&quot; stuff at all, especially after 30 years of witnessing clown antics in the parking lot.

&quot;How many you get - I caught 10&quot; - you lads count fish, grabs, bites, and long line releases - just like a legitimate weigh-in, the only difference is no corporate sponsorship or babes hugging your arm during the parking lot recitation of daring do..

&quot;How would you like your favorite river ...&quot; - doesn&#039;t hold water, because you&#039;re only there 6 times a year. While it remains your favorite, you can&#039;t see your way to share it with TV?

A bowl of popcorn, a warm sofa - and the howls of glee that result when the &quot;expert&quot; walks past where he should fish, and fishes someplace you know has nothing but dinks? That&#039;s entertainment.

I think we&#039;re missing the point entirely. While we all prefer the untrammeled solitude, we&#039;re not able to convey the important message to the masses... fisheries are precious and delicate, and bugs and water quality dictate fishing quality.

Do you seriously think that fly fishing caused the BASS guys to release their catch? Nope, the TV cameras have likely promoted catch and release far more than all of our squeamishness over the last couple of decades.

Fly fishing on TV would allow a &quot;bully pulpit&quot; that we&#039;re sorely lacking, a place to talk conservation and influence voters - to recapture some precious focus on OUR issues.

Our mainstream media is dismissed out of hand, and we lack tangible clout in any of the political venues. Tournament coverage would garner us a precious &quot;foot in the door&quot; - all we have to do is find enough characters to make us interesting..

That&#039;s the hard part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bah, Wimps!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t buy the &#8220;quiet sport&#8221; stuff at all, especially after 30 years of witnessing clown antics in the parking lot.</p>
<p>&#8220;How many you get &#8211; I caught 10&#8243; &#8211; you lads count fish, grabs, bites, and long line releases &#8211; just like a legitimate weigh-in, the only difference is no corporate sponsorship or babes hugging your arm during the parking lot recitation of daring do..</p>
<p>&#8220;How would you like your favorite river &#8230;&#8221; &#8211; doesn&#8217;t hold water, because you&#8217;re only there 6 times a year. While it remains your favorite, you can&#8217;t see your way to share it with TV?</p>
<p>A bowl of popcorn, a warm sofa &#8211; and the howls of glee that result when the &#8220;expert&#8221; walks past where he should fish, and fishes someplace you know has nothing but dinks? That&#8217;s entertainment.</p>
<p>I think we&#8217;re missing the point entirely. While we all prefer the untrammeled solitude, we&#8217;re not able to convey the important message to the masses&#8230; fisheries are precious and delicate, and bugs and water quality dictate fishing quality.</p>
<p>Do you seriously think that fly fishing caused the BASS guys to release their catch? Nope, the TV cameras have likely promoted catch and release far more than all of our squeamishness over the last couple of decades.</p>
<p>Fly fishing on TV would allow a &#8220;bully pulpit&#8221; that we&#8217;re sorely lacking, a place to talk conservation and influence voters &#8211; to recapture some precious focus on OUR issues.</p>
<p>Our mainstream media is dismissed out of hand, and we lack tangible clout in any of the political venues. Tournament coverage would garner us a precious &#8220;foot in the door&#8221; &#8211; all we have to do is find enough characters to make us interesting..</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the hard part.</p>
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		<title>By: fishingdoc</title>
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		<dc:creator>fishingdoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 15:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The day I start seeing flyfishermen wearing 
&quot;clown suits&quot; invading my river, will be the day I...... well I won&#039;t quit, but I will find a more remote river.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The day I start seeing flyfishermen wearing<br />
&#8220;clown suits&#8221; invading my river, will be the day I&#8230;&#8230; well I won&#8217;t quit, but I will find a more remote river.</p>
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