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	<title>Comments on: Alpers Owens River Ranch Being Sold: Fishing No Longer Permitted</title>
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	<description>Fly Fishing the Upper Sacramento River : Tom Chandler&#039;s Fly Fishing Life : Fly Rods are the Measure of Life</description>
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		<title>By: Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 03:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a wonderful place.  I can remember going there as a kid with Alice running the place.  At one point she could hardly see, but she still drove all over the ranch.  What a wonderful woman and how sad I am that I can&#039;t share the place with my son...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a wonderful place.  I can remember going there as a kid with Alice running the place.  At one point she could hardly see, but she still drove all over the ranch.  What a wonderful woman and how sad I am that I can&#8217;t share the place with my son&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: weston</title>
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		<dc:creator>weston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what&#039;s next - the Big Springs Camp Ground?  is there anyplace left?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what&#8217;s next &#8211; the Big Springs Camp Ground?  is there anyplace left?</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never leave blogs- but htis is tragic!  I knew the father Bill Alpers from 40 + years ago.  When Arcularius was sold that was bad but this is tragic.  Alpers was one of the last and maybe only one that still held water rights - DWP didnt get them.   I fished the first year Bill cut the &quot;ditch&quot;  So long................</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never leave blogs- but htis is tragic!  I knew the father Bill Alpers from 40 + years ago.  When Arcularius was sold that was bad but this is tragic.  Alpers was one of the last and maybe only one that still held water rights &#8211; DWP didnt get them.   I fished the first year Bill cut the &#8220;ditch&#8221;  So long&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Asi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Asi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anyone remember Larry? with Scotty the Wonder Horse?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anyone remember Larry? with Scotty the Wonder Horse?</p>
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		<title>By: West to the Owens River &#171; PlanetTrout</title>
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		<dc:creator>West to the Owens River &#171; PlanetTrout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Arcularius Ranch was full so I went back up the road to the Owens River Ranch and checked in for five days. I began fishing with my Winston since the headwaters are rather [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Arcularius Ranch was full so I went back up the road to the Owens River Ranch and checked in for five days. I began fishing with my Winston since the headwaters are rather [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 06:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, recognize that Tim and Pam Alpers are very good people.  They understand better than anyone the position they were in.  And I know it wasn&#039;t a casual decision for them.  As I understand it, Tim could have taken 3 times more money by a commercial developer.  Instead, he opted for the single buyer helping to guarantee the land wouldn&#039;t be developed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, recognize that Tim and Pam Alpers are very good people.  They understand better than anyone the position they were in.  And I know it wasn&#8217;t a casual decision for them.  As I understand it, Tim could have taken 3 times more money by a commercial developer.  Instead, he opted for the single buyer helping to guarantee the land wouldn&#8217;t be developed.</p>
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		<title>By: luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 00:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its funny though i met the young dude, (who lived there) that would come out and fish with me and my cousins. he was the nicest man i have ever met. i just dont get why you would sell such a cool place to the uptight next door neighbors. they are only a private cabins! thats just a horriable mistake on Tim. p.s. i like cabin 5 the best. or whatever was the biggest one. My favorite and it also had the best spot on the river 20 steps away</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its funny though i met the young dude, (who lived there) that would come out and fish with me and my cousins. he was the nicest man i have ever met. i just dont get why you would sell such a cool place to the uptight next door neighbors. they are only a private cabins! thats just a horriable mistake on Tim. p.s. i like cabin 5 the best. or whatever was the biggest one. My favorite and it also had the best spot on the river 20 steps away</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Chandler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Chandler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s tough to top repeat family vacations for memory value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s tough to top repeat family vacations for memory value.</p>
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		<title>By: John Waters</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Waters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 15:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luke,  

Your grandpa had the right idea.  Make sure you find another place to give your kids and grandkids the same opportunity. It my take years but do it.

I started taking my son up there 3 years ago and it&#039;s truly the highlight of our year.

Final Thought:  I have no recollection of anyone ever being rude or out of line at Alpers.  Nothing but great memories with my very best friends and family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luke,  </p>
<p>Your grandpa had the right idea.  Make sure you find another place to give your kids and grandkids the same opportunity. It my take years but do it.</p>
<p>I started taking my son up there 3 years ago and it&#8217;s truly the highlight of our year.</p>
<p>Final Thought:  I have no recollection of anyone ever being rude or out of line at Alpers.  Nothing but great memories with my very best friends and family.</p>
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		<title>By: luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 02:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what!!!!!! thats my favorite place to fish!!!! i guess money is better than the joy of landing a Huge trout. wow im sixteen and my grandparents took me up there 5 years in a row. i was planning on doing it for my grand children but i guess thats gone..... its sad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what!!!!!! thats my favorite place to fish!!!! i guess money is better than the joy of landing a Huge trout. wow im sixteen and my grandparents took me up there 5 years in a row. i was planning on doing it for my grand children but i guess thats gone&#8230;.. its sad</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 19:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know.  Having been going there for 20+ years, I&#039;m going to miss it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know.  Having been going there for 20+ years, I&#8217;m going to miss it.</p>
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		<title>By: John Waters</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Waters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right...there have been times when the fishing was extremely good on the Owens.  And Cabin 7...how do you even explain it to someone who has never been?

I&#039;ve stayed at the Lodge at Pebble Beach overlooking the 18th hole, and I still prefer Cabin 7.

Any thoughts on alternatives, realizing that the charm of Alpers will not be matched?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right&#8230;there have been times when the fishing was extremely good on the Owens.  And Cabin 7&#8230;how do you even explain it to someone who has never been?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve stayed at the Lodge at Pebble Beach overlooking the 18th hole, and I still prefer Cabin 7.</p>
<p>Any thoughts on alternatives, realizing that the charm of Alpers will not be matched?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Chandler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Chandler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John: Your sentiment mirrors of a lot of others; it wasn&#039;t that the fishing was all that monstrous (though it could be good, and it certainly was challenging), but the place occupied a regular, recurring home on a lot of calendars for many, many years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John: Your sentiment mirrors of a lot of others; it wasn&#8217;t that the fishing was all that monstrous (though it could be good, and it certainly was challenging), but the place occupied a regular, recurring home on a lot of calendars for many, many years.</p>
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		<title>By: John Waters</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Waters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three families started going 24 years ago when it was $25  each/nite and we were the kids.  Now our kids have enjoyed the place at $70 each/nite and they&#039;re closing the place to the public.

The fishing was never that great but the place was unbeatable on all levels.  

It&#039;s a shame someone finally had to &quot;kiss the beaver&quot; and ruin it for the rest of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three families started going 24 years ago when it was $25  each/nite and we were the kids.  Now our kids have enjoyed the place at $70 each/nite and they&#8217;re closing the place to the public.</p>
<p>The fishing was never that great but the place was unbeatable on all levels.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a shame someone finally had to &#8220;kiss the beaver&#8221; and ruin it for the rest of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Chandler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Chandler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 17:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I admit it, the Beaver angle occurred to me too. Turns out it was bought by the neighbors -- the same folks who bought the nearby Arcularis Ranch. 

Looks like this one&#039;s going, going...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admit it, the Beaver angle occurred to me too. Turns out it was bought by the neighbors &#8212; the same folks who bought the nearby Arcularis Ranch. </p>
<p>Looks like this one&#8217;s going, going&#8230;</p>
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