Comments on: Is the Pending World Record Rainbow a Real Trout? http://troutunderground.com/2007/06/27/is-the-pending-world-record-rainbow-a-real-trout/ Fly Fishing the Upper Sacramento River : Tom Chandler's Fly Fishing Life : Fly Rods are the Measure of Life Sat, 20 Mar 2010 16:29:54 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Record Rainbow or Genetic Cheat? « Boulder Flycasters http://troutunderground.com/2007/06/27/is-the-pending-world-record-rainbow-a-real-trout/comment-page-2/#comment-60819 Record Rainbow or Genetic Cheat? « Boulder Flycasters Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:35:17 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/06/27/is-the-pending-world-record-rainbow-a-real-trout/#comment-60819 [...] caught a 48-pound, world-record rainbow trout. The fish came from Lake Diefenbaker, where trout genetically engineered to grow extra-big escaped from a fish farm nine years [...] [...] caught a 48-pound, world-record rainbow trout. The fish came from Lake Diefenbaker, where trout genetically engineered to grow extra-big escaped from a fish farm nine years [...]

]]> By: fred http://troutunderground.com/2007/06/27/is-the-pending-world-record-rainbow-a-real-trout/comment-page-2/#comment-59318 fred Thu, 24 Dec 2009 03:59:11 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/06/27/is-the-pending-world-record-rainbow-a-real-trout/#comment-59318 Anyway you look at it, he caught this monster fish legally, which im sure was not easy to do. The precision to find, hook and catch this huge trout was excuted legally and should be honored either way. Jealousy is so present and obvious in many of these reader comments, how many wouldnt want to catch it because of genetics? Anyway you look at it, he caught this monster fish legally, which im sure was not easy to do. The precision to find, hook and catch this huge trout was excuted legally and should be honored either way.
Jealousy is so present and obvious in many of these reader comments, how many wouldnt want to catch it because of genetics?

]]> By: retrieverman http://troutunderground.com/2007/06/27/is-the-pending-world-record-rainbow-a-real-trout/comment-page-1/#comment-58265 retrieverman Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:25:27 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/06/27/is-the-pending-world-record-rainbow-a-real-trout/#comment-58265 If someone shot a St. Bernard and tried to turn it in as a world record wolf, would it be a real record? Of course not. And that's exactly what this monstrosity is. It's nothing more than a sophisticated St. Bernard steelhead. If someone shot a St. Bernard and tried to turn it in as a world record wolf, would it be a real record?

Of course not.

And that’s exactly what this monstrosity is. It’s nothing more than a sophisticated St. Bernard steelhead.

]]> By: WT Bash http://troutunderground.com/2007/06/27/is-the-pending-world-record-rainbow-a-real-trout/comment-page-1/#comment-58151 WT Bash Wed, 23 Sep 2009 04:33:58 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/06/27/is-the-pending-world-record-rainbow-a-real-trout/#comment-58151 We have the same scenario here in Ohio, Summit Lake. Goodyear went berserk stocking the lake with largemouth, as well as all types of pollutants. Now we have the Erie Towpath Canal running into and out of the lake and it has a population of monster bass that staggers my imagination! But bass are a different ball of wax they can reproduce and eat any and everything. Often small pond bass can be massive, no real competition and a steady supply of food. The average bass in the towpath are around 2 to 3 pounds, not the biggest but if you saw the size of this canal you would be astonished. There are also some absolute titans in there, I'm talking Ox tippet fish! Its not uncommon to land three or four 8 to 10 pounders on a good day. Like I said though bass can do that in the wild on there own. We have the same scenario here in Ohio, Summit Lake. Goodyear went berserk stocking the lake with largemouth, as well as all types of pollutants. Now we have the Erie Towpath Canal running into and out of the lake and it has a population of monster bass that staggers my imagination! But bass are a different ball of wax they can reproduce and eat any and everything. Often small pond bass can be massive, no real competition and a steady supply of food. The average bass in the towpath are around 2 to 3 pounds, not the biggest but if you saw the size of this canal you would be astonished. There are also some absolute titans in there, I’m talking Ox tippet fish! Its not uncommon to land three or four 8 to 10 pounders on a good day. Like I said though bass can do that in the wild on there own.

]]> By: harry http://troutunderground.com/2007/06/27/is-the-pending-world-record-rainbow-a-real-trout/comment-page-1/#comment-58150 harry Wed, 23 Sep 2009 04:08:39 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/06/27/is-the-pending-world-record-rainbow-a-real-trout/#comment-58150 i recently fished a pond that was used for i dont know what but i live in ky and in this pond i hooked a largemouth that was at least 35in long and had to weigh over 20lbs and was not fat . i thought a cat had grabbed my jig till it came up taildancing and after getting this bass within netting distance had no net that sucked and seeing it several times before my jig and 17lb floro tore out of its mouth i was thinking i have a state maybe world record but i doubt it would have counted cause there is no way a bass can get that big unless it was just a freak maybe i could have gotten a non typical record. but its still fun to go try and get it to bite again. also trying to get fish and wildlife to come shock it for me.but knowing that that fish is not normal it would not mean as much as a normal 13pounder. and if i catch it i wont even submit it to the record books. but you will surely read about it in the magazines. <blockquote cite="comment-58095"> <strong><a href="#comment-58095" rel="nofollow">WT Bash</a></strong>: Aren’t most of the fish in the U.S. stocked and therefore “un-natural”? Such as all browns? Either way though its a huge fish but I hear what most of you guys are saying and agree sure most fish in our waters didn’t occur naturally but they often reproduce naturally and so forth and so on but I don’t think this should be a record, at least not an IGFA record maybe something for the Ripley’s and Guinness folks. There are alot of those kinda rivers here in Ohio, well OK there not even rivers or streams just man made trenches with some so called “spring fed” crap going on and freak show hybrid rainbows. I for one don’t like fishing that way. Stocking fish where they didn’t and don’t normally live is one thing but freak show mutants raised in a pen are another….agh I don’t know, I’m sure if one of us caught it we might have a different view. Hahaha </blockquote> i recently fished a pond that was used for i dont know what but i live in ky and in this pond i hooked a largemouth that was at least 35in long and had to weigh over 20lbs and was not fat . i thought a cat had grabbed my jig till it came up taildancing and after getting this bass within netting distance had no net that sucked and seeing it several times before my jig and 17lb floro tore out of its mouth i was thinking i have a state maybe world record but i doubt it would have counted cause there is no way a bass can get that big unless it was just a freak maybe i could have gotten a non typical record. but its still fun to go try and get it to bite again. also trying to get fish and wildlife to come shock it for me.but knowing that that fish is not normal it would not mean as much as a normal 13pounder. and if i catch it i wont even submit it to the record books. but you will surely read about it in the magazines.

WT Bash: Aren’t most of the fish in the U.S. stocked and therefore “un-natural”? Such as all browns? Either way though its a huge fish but I hear what most of you guys are saying and agree sure most fish in our waters didn’t occur naturally but they often reproduce naturally and so forth and so on but I don’t think this should be a record, at least not an IGFA record maybe something for the Ripley’s and Guinness folks. There are alot of those kinda rivers here in Ohio, well OK there not even rivers or streams just man made trenches with some so called “spring fed” crap going on and freak show hybrid rainbows. I for one don’t like fishing that way. Stocking fish where they didn’t and don’t normally live is one thing but freak show mutants raised in a pen are another….agh I don’t know, I’m sure if one of us caught it we might have a different view. Hahaha

]]> By: New Genetically Engineered Rainbow Trout Smashes Record of Old Genetically Engineered Rainbow Trout (yawn) | The Trout Underground Fly Fishing Blog http://troutunderground.com/2007/06/27/is-the-pending-world-record-rainbow-a-real-trout/comment-page-1/#comment-58120 New Genetically Engineered Rainbow Trout Smashes Record of Old Genetically Engineered Rainbow Trout (yawn) | The Trout Underground Fly Fishing Blog Mon, 21 Sep 2009 00:52:30 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/06/27/is-the-pending-world-record-rainbow-a-real-trout/#comment-58120 [...] first questioned the legitimacy of a 43.6 pound, world-record rainbow trout caught at Lake Diefenbaker after learning that it was an escapee from a fish farm – a rainbow [...] [...] first questioned the legitimacy of a 43.6 pound, world-record rainbow trout caught at Lake Diefenbaker after learning that it was an escapee from a fish farm – a rainbow [...]

]]> By: World Record Rainbow or Mutant? | http://troutunderground.com/2007/06/27/is-the-pending-world-record-rainbow-a-real-trout/comment-page-1/#comment-58119 World Record Rainbow or Mutant? | Sun, 20 Sep 2009 22:00:51 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/06/27/is-the-pending-world-record-rainbow-a-real-trout/#comment-58119 [...] caught a 48-pound, world-record rainbow trout. The fish came from Lake Diefenbaker, where trout genetically engineered to grow extra-big escaped from a fish farm nine years [...] [...] caught a 48-pound, world-record rainbow trout. The fish came from Lake Diefenbaker, where trout genetically engineered to grow extra-big escaped from a fish farm nine years [...]

]]> By: WT Bash http://troutunderground.com/2007/06/27/is-the-pending-world-record-rainbow-a-real-trout/comment-page-1/#comment-58095 WT Bash Fri, 18 Sep 2009 04:29:46 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/06/27/is-the-pending-world-record-rainbow-a-real-trout/#comment-58095 Aren't most of the fish in the U.S. stocked and therefore "un-natural"? Such as all browns? Either way though its a huge fish but I hear what most of you guys are saying and agree sure most fish in our waters didn't occur naturally but they often reproduce naturally and so forth and so on but I don't think this should be a record, at least not an IGFA record maybe something for the Ripley's and Guinness folks. There are alot of those kinda rivers here in Ohio, well OK there not even rivers or streams just man made trenches with some so called "spring fed" crap going on and freak show hybrid rainbows. I for one don't like fishing that way. Stocking fish where they didn't and don't normally live is one thing but freak show mutants raised in a pen are another....agh I don't know, I'm sure if one of us caught it we might have a different view. Hahaha Aren’t most of the fish in the U.S. stocked and therefore “un-natural”? Such as all browns? Either way though its a huge fish but I hear what most of you guys are saying and agree sure most fish in our waters didn’t occur naturally but they often reproduce naturally and so forth and so on but I don’t think this should be a record, at least not an IGFA record maybe something for the Ripley’s and Guinness folks. There are alot of those kinda rivers here in Ohio, well OK there not even rivers or streams just man made trenches with some so called “spring fed” crap going on and freak show hybrid rainbows. I for one don’t like fishing that way. Stocking fish where they didn’t and don’t normally live is one thing but freak show mutants raised in a pen are another….agh I don’t know, I’m sure if one of us caught it we might have a different view. Hahaha

]]> By: 48-Pound Trout: World Record or Genetic Cheat? | Filme Gratis Filme Moca http://troutunderground.com/2007/06/27/is-the-pending-world-record-rainbow-a-real-trout/comment-page-1/#comment-58083 48-Pound Trout: World Record or Genetic Cheat? | Filme Gratis Filme Moca Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:41:35 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/06/27/is-the-pending-world-record-rainbow-a-real-trout/#comment-58083 [...] caught a 48-pound, world-record rainbow trout. The fish came from Lake Diefenbaker, where trout genetically engineered to grow extra-big escaped from a fish farm nine years [...] [...] caught a 48-pound, world-record rainbow trout. The fish came from Lake Diefenbaker, where trout genetically engineered to grow extra-big escaped from a fish farm nine years [...]

]]> By: Rey http://troutunderground.com/2007/06/27/is-the-pending-world-record-rainbow-a-real-trout/comment-page-1/#comment-58078 Rey Thu, 17 Sep 2009 04:04:27 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/06/27/is-the-pending-world-record-rainbow-a-real-trout/#comment-58078 Did he catch the fish? I assume so; so Yes. Did he use a net? Did he spear it? Or was it standard fishing rod and reel (fly fishing ...what ever.....)? Was he fishing in the pen? Was the watyer infested only with steroid made fish? If he caught the thing it was fishing luck so he should get the record. Stop hating! Did he catch the fish? I assume so; so Yes. Did he use a net? Did he spear it? Or was it standard fishing rod and reel (fly fishing …what ever…..)? Was he fishing in the pen? Was the watyer infested only with steroid made fish? If he caught the thing it was fishing luck so he should get the record. Stop hating!

]]> By: WASP http://troutunderground.com/2007/06/27/is-the-pending-world-record-rainbow-a-real-trout/comment-page-1/#comment-58074 WASP Wed, 16 Sep 2009 23:29:04 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/06/27/is-the-pending-world-record-rainbow-a-real-trout/#comment-58074 In my opinion, these fish should not count toward world records. In my opinion, these fish should not count toward world records.

]]> By: john fitz http://troutunderground.com/2007/06/27/is-the-pending-world-record-rainbow-a-real-trout/comment-page-1/#comment-58072 john fitz Wed, 16 Sep 2009 23:25:39 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/06/27/is-the-pending-world-record-rainbow-a-real-trout/#comment-58072 The fish is legit due to the fact it was caught in the lake not in a pen The fish is legit due to the fact it was caught in the lake not in a pen

]]> By: Josh http://troutunderground.com/2007/06/27/is-the-pending-world-record-rainbow-a-real-trout/comment-page-1/#comment-58062 Josh Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:16:10 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/06/27/is-the-pending-world-record-rainbow-a-real-trout/#comment-58062 Should it count? I don't think we can disqualify it. There are people feeding fish world wide, creating behaviors that are not "natural". Heck, even fishing for fish creates behaviors that are not "natural". Was this genentically engineered? Sure, but was it caught legally? yes. There is a person, today, who is raising a record breaking fish in their backyard. Genetica engineering, breeding program, feeding program...it's all unnatural and should count. However, distinctions should be made. An asterisk in the record books. Should it count? I don’t think we can disqualify it. There are people feeding fish world wide, creating behaviors that are not “natural”. Heck, even fishing for fish creates behaviors that are not “natural”. Was this genentically engineered? Sure, but was it caught legally? yes. There is a person, today, who is raising a record breaking fish in their backyard. Genetica engineering, breeding program, feeding program…it’s all unnatural and should count. However, distinctions should be made. An asterisk in the record books.

]]> By: 48-Pound Trout: World Record or Genetic Cheat? | Rerters http://troutunderground.com/2007/06/27/is-the-pending-world-record-rainbow-a-real-trout/comment-page-1/#comment-58061 48-Pound Trout: World Record or Genetic Cheat? | Rerters Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:04:54 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/06/27/is-the-pending-world-record-rainbow-a-real-trout/#comment-58061 [...] caught a 48-pound, world-record rainbow trout. The fish came from Lake Diefenbacher, where trout genetically engineered to grow extra-big escaped from a fish farm nine years [...] [...] caught a 48-pound, world-record rainbow trout. The fish came from Lake Diefenbacher, where trout genetically engineered to grow extra-big escaped from a fish farm nine years [...]

]]> By: stephan http://troutunderground.com/2007/06/27/is-the-pending-world-record-rainbow-a-real-trout/comment-page-1/#comment-55249 stephan Sat, 16 May 2009 00:26:39 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/06/27/is-the-pending-world-record-rainbow-a-real-trout/#comment-55249 is it sterile and no it shouldnt be a record cus its a crossbreed and raised in captivity. is it sterile and no it shouldnt be a record cus its a crossbreed and raised in captivity.

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