Comments on: “Bury Me With My Phillipson Bamboo Fly Rods,” Part III http://troutunderground.com/2007/05/14/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-iii/ Fly Fishing the Upper Sacramento River : Tom Chandler's Fly Fishing Life : Fly Rods are the Measure of Life Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:56:21 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: shawn http://troutunderground.com/2007/05/14/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-iii/comment-page-2/#comment-60818 shawn Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:42:43 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/05/14/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-iii/#comment-60818 Hi Tom, What is the length of your Paramount? Thanks, Shawn. (801) 350-1548 bennystaff@yahoo.com Hi Tom,

What is the length of your Paramount?

Thanks,

Shawn.
(801) 350-1548
bennystaff@yahoo.com

]]> By: Tom Ford http://troutunderground.com/2007/05/14/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-iii/comment-page-2/#comment-60817 Tom Ford Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:00:07 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/05/14/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-iii/#comment-60817 Having owned three Grangers and one Phillipson, I can't see any significant diference between the two brands when compared to wgts. and lengths. Currently the only significant difference seems to be Grangers are for collectors and Phillipsons are for collector-users. I grew up in New england and only knew fly fishing not as a snobbish sport, but as an enjoyable practicality. Now living in Applachia among the spoils of the coal industry I will have to relinquish my faithful Phillipson Paramount, in pristine condition, to one who appreciates a great rod at a reasonable price. Any good offers? T. Ford Having owned three Grangers and one Phillipson, I can’t see any significant diference between the two brands when compared to wgts. and lengths. Currently the only
significant difference seems to be Grangers are for collectors and Phillipsons are for collector-users. I grew up in New england and only knew fly fishing not as a snobbish sport, but as an enjoyable practicality. Now living in Applachia among the spoils of the coal industry I will have to relinquish my faithful Phillipson Paramount, in pristine condition, to one who appreciates a great rod at a reasonable price. Any good offers?
T. Ford

]]> By: michael gundel http://troutunderground.com/2007/05/14/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-iii/comment-page-2/#comment-60814 michael gundel Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:14:03 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/05/14/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-iii/#comment-60814 Hi Tom - I just purchased a 8.5 3pc 5wt Phillipson EMHunter Approved rod and am awaiting its arrival. I really enjoyed reading your bury me series. Can you tell me anything about its history and what I can expect for casting etc...? Thanks! -Mike Gundel, Registered Maine Guide Hi Tom – I just purchased a 8.5 3pc 5wt Phillipson EMHunter Approved rod and am awaiting its arrival. I really enjoyed reading your bury me series. Can you tell me anything about its history and what I can expect for casting etc…? Thanks! -Mike Gundel, Registered Maine Guide

]]> By: Stuart Oldham http://troutunderground.com/2007/05/14/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-iii/comment-page-2/#comment-60644 Stuart Oldham Sun, 28 Feb 2010 18:16:01 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/05/14/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-iii/#comment-60644 I own 2 Phillipson rods and a old Wright& McGill 3 peice,Granger Special. The Phillipson rods are both 7 and half ft. one a premium with the hammer handle and the other a peerless impregnated5 withthe torpedo handle, both of them with 2 tips. I love the feel just like my dad did. I own 2 Phillipson rods and a old Wright& McGill 3 peice,Granger Special. The Phillipson rods are both 7 and half ft. one a premium with the hammer handle and the other a peerless impregnated5 withthe torpedo handle, both of them with 2 tips. I love the feel just like my dad did.

]]> By: Tom Chandler http://troutunderground.com/2007/05/14/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-iii/comment-page-2/#comment-59044 Tom Chandler Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:12:26 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/05/14/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-iii/#comment-59044 I always cringe when people ask me to offer estimates of value. At the height of the madness, I saw 8.5' Phillipsons listed at near $1K by the big rod dealers, which seems pretty ridiculously high. I love Phillipsons, but wouldn't spend a lot on a 9' rod until I'd fished one - you might discover you simply don't like them. I always cringe when people ask me to offer estimates of value. At the height of the madness, I saw 8.5′ Phillipsons listed at near $1K by the big rod dealers, which seems pretty ridiculously high.

I love Phillipsons, but wouldn’t spend a lot on a 9′ rod until I’d fished one – you might discover you simply don’t like them.

]]> By: Heddon17 http://troutunderground.com/2007/05/14/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-iii/comment-page-2/#comment-59036 Heddon17 Tue, 01 Dec 2009 15:17:37 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/05/14/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-iii/#comment-59036 I think the 9' Phillipsons are currently worth around $250 or so depending on condition and model. When the economy started to crash in summer 08, the used bamboo rod market really took a hit. It seems to be coming back now, but it will slow down again until early Feb due to the holidays (always does). If you're planning on selling that rod, I'd wait until Feb and put it up for sale then. Brian I think the 9′ Phillipsons are currently worth around $250 or so depending on condition and model. When the economy started to crash in summer 08, the used bamboo rod market really took a hit. It seems to be coming back now, but it will slow down again until early Feb due to the holidays (always does). If you’re planning on selling that rod, I’d wait until Feb and put it up for sale then.

Brian

]]> By: greg hall http://troutunderground.com/2007/05/14/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-iii/comment-page-2/#comment-59023 greg hall Tue, 01 Dec 2009 05:31:59 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/05/14/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-iii/#comment-59023 If you look closely at the catalog page posted above you will see that the Dry Fly Specials are listed at 5 1/2 ounces and would be marked as such. The Dry Fly Special rods were introduced in 1952 which is the same year that the wrap colors on the Pacemakers were changed olive green tipped black. So a Pacemaker Dry Fly Special would have olive green tipped black wraps. The wrap colors are also noted on the above catalog page. If you look closely at the catalog page posted above you will see that the Dry Fly Specials are listed at 5 1/2 ounces and would be marked as such. The Dry Fly Special rods were introduced in 1952 which is the same year that the wrap colors on the Pacemakers were changed olive green tipped black. So a Pacemaker Dry Fly Special would have olive green tipped black wraps. The wrap colors are also noted on the above catalog page.

]]> By: Tom Chandler http://troutunderground.com/2007/05/14/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-iii/comment-page-2/#comment-59005 Tom Chandler Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:58:26 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/05/14/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-iii/#comment-59005 I never have received a cogent explanation about the number. Michael Sinclair (who would know about as well as anyone) suggested it was a code on the rod identifying a builder or inspector or other employee. It's tempting to think it's the year it was built, but the numbers don't always make sense that way. Does this rod have "Dry Fly Special" written anywhere? I never have received a cogent explanation about the number. Michael Sinclair (who would know about as well as anyone) suggested it was a code on the rod identifying a builder or inspector or other employee.

It’s tempting to think it’s the year it was built, but the numbers don’t always make sense that way.

Does this rod have “Dry Fly Special” written anywhere?

]]> By: John M. Colligas http://troutunderground.com/2007/05/14/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-iii/comment-page-2/#comment-59004 John M. Colligas Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:54:08 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/05/14/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-iii/#comment-59004 I recently came into possession of a Phillipson Pacemaker fly Rod HDH Line ,8 1/2 ft. , 5oz, with two tips and the Premium elliptical "hammer handle" which I plan to fish as soon as possible. There is the number 48 painted on the butt section just forwrd of the handle. What is the significance of this number? I recently came into possession of a Phillipson Pacemaker fly Rod HDH Line ,8 1/2 ft. , 5oz, with two tips and the Premium elliptical “hammer handle” which I plan to fish as soon as possible. There is the number 48 painted on the butt section just forwrd of the handle. What is the significance of this number?

]]> By: Tom Chandler http://troutunderground.com/2007/05/14/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-iii/comment-page-2/#comment-58102 Tom Chandler Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:50:31 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/05/14/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-iii/#comment-58102 <blockquote cite="comment-58099"> <strong><a href="#comment-58099" rel="nofollow">Blain</a></strong>: Greetings Tom- I recently purchased an 8 ft Phillipson Pacemaker.Being a newcomer to bamboo I have two questions for you: 1. Rod is flawless, except for a very small chip out of the varnish on the butt section (roughly 2 mm). Should I varnish over this, or can rod be fished as is?2.The only inscriptions on the butt section are “Phillipson Pacemaker” and a small number “68.”No rod length, weight, or line size.These are all listed on the paper label on the original tube.Was this the norm for early model Pacemakers?Thanks. </blockquote> I keep a small vial of a fast-drying, water-based "varnish" handy to repair just such chips (Gudebrod's rod varnish is good for this, though not much else). In your case, repair may not be critical, but remember that water isn't exactly a bamboo fly rod's friend, so keeping the varnish intact is a good thing. The trick is to apply a tiny bit, and to not muck up the finish around it. I used a toothpick. Good luck! It's a wonderful rod.

Blain: Greetings Tom- I recently purchased an 8 ft Phillipson Pacemaker.Being a newcomer to bamboo I have two questions for you:
1. Rod is flawless, except for a very small chip out of the varnish on the butt section (roughly 2 mm). Should I varnish over this, or can rod be fished as is?2.The only inscriptions on the butt section are “Phillipson Pacemaker” and a small number “68.”No rod length, weight, or line size.These are all listed on the paper label on the original tube.Was this the norm for early model Pacemakers?Thanks.

I keep a small vial of a fast-drying, water-based “varnish” handy to repair just such chips (Gudebrod’s rod varnish is good for this, though not much else). In your case, repair may not be critical, but remember that water isn’t exactly a bamboo fly rod’s friend, so keeping the varnish intact is a good thing.

The trick is to apply a tiny bit, and to not muck up the finish around it. I used a toothpick.

Good luck! It’s a wonderful rod.

]]> By: Blain http://troutunderground.com/2007/05/14/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-iii/comment-page-2/#comment-58099 Blain Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:47:15 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/05/14/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-iii/#comment-58099 Greetings Tom- I recently purchased an 8 ft Phillipson Pacemaker. Being a newcomer to bamboo I have two questions for you: 1. Rod is flawless, except for a very small chip out of the varnish on the butt section (roughly 2 mm). Should I varnish over this, or can rod be fished as is? 2. The only inscriptions on the butt section are "Phillipson Pacemaker" and a small number "68." No rod length, weight, or line size. These are all listed on the paper label on the original tube. Was this the norm for early model Pacemakers? Thanks. Greetings Tom- I recently purchased an 8 ft Phillipson Pacemaker. Being a newcomer to bamboo I have two questions for you:

1. Rod is flawless, except for a very small chip out of the varnish on the butt section (roughly 2 mm). Should I varnish over this, or can rod be fished as is?

2. The only inscriptions on the butt section are “Phillipson Pacemaker” and a small number “68.” No rod length, weight, or line size. These are all listed on the paper label on the original tube. Was this the norm for early model Pacemakers? Thanks.

]]> By: Susan http://troutunderground.com/2007/05/14/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-iii/comment-page-2/#comment-58093 Susan Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:04:47 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/05/14/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-iii/#comment-58093 Fishing with Great-Grandpa's Phillipson - priceless... Fishing with Great-Grandpa’s Phillipson – priceless…

]]> By: Tom Chandler http://troutunderground.com/2007/05/14/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-iii/comment-page-2/#comment-58084 Tom Chandler Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:49:11 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/05/14/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-iii/#comment-58084 <blockquote cite="comment-58073"> <strong><a href="#comment-58073" rel="nofollow">Trisha Lloyd</a></strong>: We just recieved my great grandpa’s 9′5” 5/8, it was used maybe 5 times if that. We were just curious on the value of that rod. </blockquote> There was no 9' 5" Phillipson rods (that I know of). It's probably a 9' (5 5/8oz), and value on the 9' Phillipsons wasn't great - probably less than $450. The bamboo market has definitely come down some lately, so may be a couple hundred less...

Trisha Lloyd: We just recieved my great grandpa’s 9′5” 5/8, it was used maybe 5 times if that. We were just curious on the value of that rod.

There was no 9′ 5″ Phillipson rods (that I know of). It’s probably a 9′ (5 5/8oz), and value on the 9′ Phillipsons wasn’t great – probably less than $450. The bamboo market has definitely come down some lately, so may be a couple hundred less…

]]> By: Trisha Lloyd http://troutunderground.com/2007/05/14/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-iii/comment-page-2/#comment-58073 Trisha Lloyd Wed, 16 Sep 2009 23:28:37 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/05/14/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-iii/#comment-58073 We just recieved my great grandpa's 9'5'' 5/8, it was used maybe 5 times if that. We were just curious on the value of that rod. We just recieved my great grandpa’s 9′5” 5/8, it was used maybe 5 times if that. We were just curious on the value of that rod.

]]> By: Tom Chandler http://troutunderground.com/2007/05/14/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-iii/comment-page-2/#comment-57465 Tom Chandler Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:38:33 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/05/14/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-iii/#comment-57465 I've answered most of the above comments via email. <blockquote cite="comment-57461"> <strong><a href="#comment-57461" rel="nofollow">Grant Somers</a></strong>: I have a Phillipson Premium 7.5 ft with the letters HEH on the butt section. Does this refer to the line weight to use and what might that be, perhaps a 5 wt.It is a 3 3/4 oz rod in perfect condition.Thanks so much for any information. </blockquote> It's probably going to take a 5wt. I had a 7.5' Phillipson Premium and found it to be a pretty strong 5wt. I’ve answered most of the above comments via email.

Grant Somers: I have a Phillipson Premium 7.5 ft with the letters HEH on the butt section. Does this refer to the line weight to use and what might that be, perhaps a 5 wt.It is a 3 3/4 oz rod in perfect condition.Thanks so much for any information.

It’s probably going to take a 5wt. I had a 7.5′ Phillipson Premium and found it to be a pretty strong 5wt.

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