(Click to read “Bury Me With My Phillipson Bamboo Fly Rods,” Part I)
Some fly rods exert a powerful hold on those who use them, and when a rod marries itself to your casting stroke, only a fool would put it down in the pursuit of new technology or glossier finish.
In truth, fly fishers chose their fly rods for many different reasons, and when you stumble across a series of rods that fish well and come neatly packaged with an interesting background, well… let’s just say I’m a sucker for that kind of thing.
Bamboo Rods
My first bamboo fly rod (going on 15 years from now) was a revelation, but my first Phillipson was a godsend.
In truth, my first cane rod was smooth, but it wasn’t much in the way of an all-around rod.
A unmarked 8′ 5wt of indeterminate manufacture, it was fun to fish but lacked the backbone to set the hook on all but the slowest-reacting trout. God forbid I should try to fish a streamer.
The first Phillipson I cast immediately soured me on the previous rod. Almost as smooth and far more powerful, here was a bamboo rod that felt like a fly rod was supposed to feel, yet it fished – to my purposes – as well as any of the graphite rods I owned.

One of my 8′ 5wt Phillipsons — this one an impregnated model.
Long casts? It did the job on the rivers I fished, especially once I let the rod do the work. And short casts? Nothing clothed in carbon came close.
It was an 8′ 5wt, I fished it a lot, and when I had the chance to buy an 8.5′ 5wt Phillipson, I latched onto it immediately.
Here was a rod with the delicacy to fish #18 BWO dries and high stick dries in pocket water, yet it could cast to any reasonable fishing distance provided the caster wasn’t an impatient brute, lacking in refinement and personal hygiene.
With those two Phillipsons firmly in hand, I started digging into the company’s past, and what I unearthed pretty much sealed the deal.
The Phillipson Story
Bill Phillipson was a Swedish immigrant who started working for the Denver-based Granger rod company in the 1920s.
By all accounts a natural craftsman, he was also an independent thinker with a knack for solving problems.
When Goodwin Granger died in the early 1930s, Phillipson quickly ascended to Operations Manager. It was then he began the series of battles with the company’s office manager that helped define his legend in the rod building industry.
“Victoryâ€
Early in his tenure at Granger, Phillipson butted heads with the office manager, a woman whose name I have written down but can’t recall. Both wanted control over the rod operation.
Eventually, the infighting grew so fierce that Goodwin Granger’s window had to step in and settle it. She awarded Phillipson control, and rumor has it he issued the “Victory†model Granger fly rod in celebration.
Michael Sinclair – a bamboo rod historian and fan of Bill Phillipson – said no one could positively confirm the story, but that those close to Phillipson thought it had the ring of truth.
“51â€
The Granger operation was shut down for WWII. After the war ended, the widow Granger wanted to sell the company rather than reopen it.
Both Bill Phillipson and the Wright-McGill company were in competition to buy the company, with Bill Phillipson offering less cash but a richer percentage of future sales.
The office manager was reported to have said that if Phillipson got the company, it wouldn’t exist five years hence.
Eventually, the company went to Wright-McGill (I’ve also heard this statement attributed to the Widow Granger, but Sinclair said manager, and I trust him), and Phillipson started The Phillipson Rod Company, which quickly grew into a success.
Never forgetting the slight, Phillipson later marked all his 1951 rods with a “51†to commemorate his company’s fifth year in operation. Zing!
Frankly, you can’t buy style like that. You’re born with it.
And if you happen to have a Phillipson with the “51†on it (as I do – a 9′ Pacemaker), you can’t help but look at it and chuckle.
Sell it? Don’t even ask.
A Populist Rod?
Phillipson’s rods are often maligned for their nylon thread wraps, purple glue lines and ingenious plastic or metal reel seats, but it’s important to note that Phillipson never wanted to build works of art.
He built fishing rods, and while their less-refined appearance has kept Phillipson prices within reason (the collectors of the short, ultra-refined eastern-style rods simply paid Phillipsons no mind), they have been “discovered” as of late.
Used Phillipson rods don’t yet approach the prices of the Grangers — most of which were also built under Bill Phillipson’s direction — but prices have been rising.
This is in contrast with Phillipson’s ability to keep his rods priced low, a result of refined manufacturing techniques. The best value in the line was probably the Pacemaker, which carried a $25 price tag during the late 40s and early 50s, though even his highest-quality rod (the tapers were identical, only the quality of the cane and fittings changed) only cost $75.
I’ve seen estimates suggesting Phillipson’s bamboo rod production never rose above 8,000-10,000 rods per year until he started selling some of the premier fiberglass rods of the era, when production rose to the 25,000-30,000 range.

One of the later Phillipson catalog covers, and a picture of Bill himself.
While some found the wraps on his bamboo rods a bit on the gaudy side, I like them.
Others have downplayed the cosmetics of his bakelite and “no rock” metal reel seats — which don’t suggest the “polished by virgins until glossy†refinement of far more expensive rods — but unlike some of those rods, I’ve never had a reel abruptly vacate a Phillipson reel seat.
And his purple glue lines? They exist because the purple glue was simply the best available at the time. Strong and waterproof, the glue allowed Phillipson to impregnate some of his rods with a resin after they’d been glued up (instead of before).
This developed a waterproof seal on the rod, but kept the resin from soaking into the pithy center portion of the rod. As a result, Phillipson’s impregnated rods gained less weight than the Orvis models and fished better as a result.
Phillipson’s Legacy: His Rods
It’s important to note that Phillipson wasn’t simply a machinist with a penchant for making fly rods; he was an expert caster and fisherman.
He set a world fly casting distance record (140 feet, 1934, Altamont CO), and was often seen prowling the banks of the South Platte river until a few years before Alzheimers claimed him in 1987 at the age of 83.
Befitting a Western fly fisher, Phillipson’s best rods were probably his 8′, 8.5′ and 9′ models, but in Part III, I’ll write more about the rods Bill Phillipson left behind, including his fiberglass models.
Until then, see you at the “5†rod rack, Tom Chandler.

A 1949 magazine ad.
(Click to read “Bury Me With My Phillipson Bamboo Fly Rods,” Part III)
(Click to read “Bury Me With My Phillipson Bamboo Fly Rods,” Part I)
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Tom,
I never believed that hype “polished by virgins until glossy”. Most of the Eastern rodmakers were in NY; where did they find the virgins?
Here is a Granger ad from 1939:
http://www.overmywaders.com/images/large/Granger39F&S.jpg
note the prices – $8.50- $75
Here is a W&M ad from 1949:
http://www.overmywaders.com/images/large/W&M49F&S.jpg
note the prices – $20.00 – $100.00
And finally,here is a Phillipson ad from 1949:
http://www.overmywaders.com/images/large/Phillipson49F&S.jpg
note the prices – $19.75 – $75.00
as you said, Phillipson kept his top-end prices down. ($25.00 bought a lot in 1949; it equals $202.28 2006 dollars)
Warmest regards,
overmywaders
overmywaders(Quote)
Enjoyed part 2! I think I’ll have to head out to the Deschutes tomorrow with a couple of my Phillipson fishing machines!
Bruce
Bruce(Quote)
Good Morning TC and All,
Now I can’t wait for #3, as alway Tom and outstanding story, and am heading out to the Tying room to see if ether of mine have a 5 on them. See you on the river.
David
Bamboo Addict(Quote)
excellent read.
I’m also eagerly anticipating pt III.
mr.blur(Quote)
Nice story very nice indeeed. Never cast a Phillipson that I did not like.
Bamboo Bill(Quote)
Tom- I’ve injoyed the story and the great information on the Phillipson. I came upon a Phillipson Pacemaker with the number 58 on it. Can you tell me what that means? It’s missing the tip section also. Any good sources you can turn me on to ? I am hoping to experience this rod I’ve read so much about. The website isn’t finished yet, but check it out! Thank’s
Gary
Gary Biehn(Quote)
Gary: The number on the Phillipson most likely ID’s the inspector (most common thought) or (less likely) the wrapper.
For a tip, Google “AJ Thramer.” He builds a sort of “generic” tip section for Grangers and Phillipsons.
Good luck!
Tom Chandler(Quote)
I have a Paragon rod that my father passed along to me that he bought back in 1947 and has not fished with for about 20 years, is it ok to fish with? Thank you..
dan walton(Quote)
Sure. If it hasn’t been stored correctly there are some potential problems — cracked varnish, loose ferrules, even dry rot — but the rod will likely fish just fine.
If you can find a local bamboo rod builder, you could have them check it out, but otherwise, I’d say fish the thing.
That’s what Bill Phillipson built ‘em to do.
Tom Chandler(Quote)
Tom – Hopefully this isn’t too off topic, but I’m in the market for my first bamboo rod. I have a contact at this company and was wondering if you have ever heard anything about their rods?
http://www.justincharles.com/split-bamboo-fly-rod.aspx
Thanks in advanced!
FGN(Quote)
I don’t have any idea who’s building those rods for that company, which also sells canoes, wool clothes, etc.
Could be a reputable builder, but nothing rules out the possibility this is a Chinese-made rod you could buy at 1/3 the price.
$1900 is a lot for an impregnated bamboo rod — that puts you into the range of all but the most expensive builders — so be damned sure they’re handing you a very, very good rod and not lot of marketing hype.
Tom Chandler(Quote)
I have no connection with Ricks Rods however,
if your indoubt about the rod I would send it to Rick and get his opinon. He has or did have a very extensive selection of threads that Phillipson used on his rods.
I have cast a fair number of the rods in question…indeed good fishing rods.
Bamboo Bill(Quote)
I have a Phillipson 3pc, 8 1/2 Dragon slightly used in excellent condition with 2 tips
I inherited from my father. Could you please tell me what it may be worth.
Mike Lucente(Quote)
Mike: A Dragon? Does that by any chance really read “Paragon?”
The Paragon was the cheapest of the Phillipsons, yet it was still a very fishable rod. I’m afraid I haven’t kept up with bamboo rod value these days – if it’s truly in excellent condition, then perhaps $350-$500?
Tom Chandler(Quote)
I have a pacemaker #29 any info on that?
dereck(Quote)
The #29 doesn’t really mean anything (most believe it’s an inspector or production number). What do you want to know? Can’t tell you much without more information.
Tom Chandler(Quote)
What is the conversion for rod weight in ounces to fly line weight? I see Phillipson rods advertised in ounces but don’t understand the conversion. I am seeking a 5wt 8-1/2 foot rod.
Mark(Quote)
Mark,
I gleamed the infomation that you requested from the book
TROUT Tackle one by Ernest Schwiebert page 87
8 1/2 ft 4 1/4 oz DT5F HDH
8 1/2ft 4 1/2 oz DT6F HCH
I hope this helps.
Bamboo Bill
Bamboo Bill(Quote)
@BBill: Thanks for stepping in.
@Mark: Bill’s numbers are right. The heavier rod is usually labeled “The Dry Fly Special” – a rod I’d characterize as having a much steeper taper than the “regular” Phillipson 8.5′ rod (which is a 5wt to most folks).
I’ve owned a couple Dry Fly Specials and admire their efficiency, though perhaps not their casting feel. I think they feel a little woody, though not everyone agrees. I will say a windy day is a good day to be holding a Dry Fly Special.
Tom Chandler(Quote)
I have a Phillipson Pacemaker that needs some TLC… It does not have any other markings on it other than the name. It is an 8′ three piece with an additional tip that is 4″ longer , missing the line guide tip and somewhat split. The butt and second rod section have missing line guides, however, I have them. The reel seat and cork handle are intact but show wear.
Anyone out there that can point me in the direction of a reputable person who can “restore” it to its near original condition?… a price range of what it might cost for a restoration?.. and finally whether or not the cost of restoration might exceed the fair market value of the rod?
Thanks, in advance, for your response(s)…
Richard(Quote)
Hi there, great stuff you have about the Phillipson Rods! My boss at work recently gave me her Father’s old fishing rod and I’m trying to find out more about it and how much it’s worth. On the rod it says The Johnson “Profile” Eponite Series “400″ crafted my Phillipson (with globe logo that says worlds finest) then under it says 4S701M Lures to 1/2oz. Made in USA. I’ve looked everywhere and can’t find any information on it. Thanks!
Scott(Quote)
Sounds like one of the Johnson era spinning rods (Johnson bought and owned the Phillipson Rod Company for a couple years). I’m afraid I don’t know much about that era.
Tom Chandler(Quote)
I just acquired a pristine shape Philipson Pacemaker #29 7-4-3/4, 2 piece, 2 tips. I assume the 7-4-3/4 means the length, but it measures 7″ even. Both tip sections are identical and measure the same. I don’t see any mentioning of 7 footers anywhere for this model. Anything you can tell me about it?
Joe Lamendola(Quote)
I refinished a 3 pc 2 tip 8.5 Phillipson Pacemaker. I have to admit that it does not have original thread wrap colors, and I chose to use red silk with no color preserver and it is translucent. I replaced the stripping guide with a NS agate guide and the original bakelite reel seat with a NS Struble downlocking seat with wooden spacer. Sorry, just liked the look. I use the rod mostly with a WF 6wt line for smallmouth bass. It has plenty of backbone and casts a line nicely.
Keith(Quote)
I have this rod but my number is #18 what is the value?
william(Quote)
I recently purchased a Phillipson bamboo fly rod at an auction. It is a 7.5′ rod with the following letters and numbers. S76 HDH 3 3/4 OZ. Can you tell me more about this rod, like what type of fishing it is best suited for, what line weight is suggested and what it might be valued at? It is used, but in good shape.
Bill Valentine(Quote)
You sure it’s bamboo? Inscription makes me think it’s one of the early model fiberglass rods.
If it’s round, it’s fiberglass. If it’s hex-shaped, it’s bamboo.
The “HDH” designation means you’ll want to start with a 6wt and see how that feels. Based on my experience with other rods, it could go up or down a line size based on your casting style.
One thing to keep in mind; odds are a 50s-era fly rod from almost any manufacturer will start suffering problems with the ferrule cement. Don’t be surprised if you feel a “knocking” sensation when you cast the rod – it could easily be the ferrules coming loose on the rod. Get that fixed before you cast it any more.
Tom Chandler(Quote)
I HAVE A PHILLIPSON #957 CUSTOM MADE VERY NICE , BUT BOTH END SECTIONS HAVE MUCH LIGHTER COLOR THREAD. IS THIS COMMON OR A REPAIR?
THOMAS EGAN(Quote)
Tom, when you say custom made, was this made by a cane rod maker using a Phillipson taper? Usually a maker will use the same thread color for the butt, mid, and tip sections. If the rod is refinished from an original Phillipson, the person refinishing may try to match the original silk or nylon thread, depending on what was used. If the tips threads are lighter in color, perhaps they did not have an exact match. Sometimes a production rod has a usable butt and mid section (if it has a mid) and broken tip sections. I have a WM Granger like this, so am making a new tip. In this case I am refinishing the entire rod and using matching thread. It could also be that your rod had a usable butt section, but the tips were added later, or possibly some guides fell off and the restorer re-wrapped the guides with a thread of different color. If the cane ‘color’ of the two sections differs, the ferrules look different, or the node spacing differs, that could be another clue.
Whatever the case it is uncommon to have threads of different color from the butt to tip section, so I would say it is a repair of some nature. Hope this helps.
Keith(Quote)
I agree; it’s very possible the ferrules on the rod had to be re-set, and lacking the same color thread (the thread on the wraps will fade over time and become impossible to match), it’s quite likely they used whatever was closest.
Also, is this a bamboo rod? I don’t recall a “Custom” model in cane.
Tom Chandler(Quote)
IT IS A BAMBOO,I TOOK PICTURES AND CAN’T FIGURE HOW TO LOAD THEM INTO THIS REPLY BOX. IF YOU KNOW HOW I WILL SEND PICTURES. THANKS ,TOM
THOMAS(Quote)