Comments on: “Bury Me With My Phillipson Bamboo Fly Rods,” Part II http://troutunderground.com/2007/03/29/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-ii/ Fly Fishing the Upper Sacramento River : Tom Chandler's Fly Fishing Life : Fly Rods are the Measure of Life Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:56:21 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Richard http://troutunderground.com/2007/03/29/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-55211 Richard Thu, 14 May 2009 15:21:32 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/03/29/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-ii/#comment-55211 I have a Phillipson Pacemaker that needs some TLC... It does not have any other markings on it other than the name. It is an 8' three piece with an additional tip that is 4" longer , missing the line guide tip and somewhat split. The butt and second rod section have missing line guides, however, I have them. The reel seat and cork handle are intact but show wear. Anyone out there that can point me in the direction of a reputable person who can "restore" it to its near original condition?... a price range of what it might cost for a restoration?.. and finally whether or not the cost of restoration might exceed the fair market value of the rod? Thanks, in advance, for your response(s)... I have a Phillipson Pacemaker that needs some TLC… It does not have any other markings on it other than the name. It is an 8′ three piece with an additional tip that is 4″ longer , missing the line guide tip and somewhat split. The butt and second rod section have missing line guides, however, I have them. The reel seat and cork handle are intact but show wear.
Anyone out there that can point me in the direction of a reputable person who can “restore” it to its near original condition?… a price range of what it might cost for a restoration?.. and finally whether or not the cost of restoration might exceed the fair market value of the rod?
Thanks, in advance, for your response(s)…

]]> By: Tom Chandler http://troutunderground.com/2007/03/29/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-53475 Tom Chandler Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:53:30 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/03/29/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-ii/#comment-53475 @BBill: Thanks for stepping in. @Mark: Bill's numbers are right. The heavier rod is usually labeled "The Dry Fly Special" - a rod I'd characterize as having a much steeper taper than the "regular" Phillipson 8.5' rod (which is a 5wt to most folks). I've owned a couple Dry Fly Specials and admire their efficiency, though perhaps not their casting feel. I think they feel a little woody, though not everyone agrees. I will say a windy day is a good day to be holding a Dry Fly Special. @BBill: Thanks for stepping in.

@Mark: Bill’s numbers are right. The heavier rod is usually labeled “The Dry Fly Special” – a rod I’d characterize as having a much steeper taper than the “regular” Phillipson 8.5′ rod (which is a 5wt to most folks).

I’ve owned a couple Dry Fly Specials and admire their efficiency, though perhaps not their casting feel. I think they feel a little woody, though not everyone agrees. I will say a windy day is a good day to be holding a Dry Fly Special.

]]> By: Bamboo Bill http://troutunderground.com/2007/03/29/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-53474 Bamboo Bill Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:10:04 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/03/29/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-ii/#comment-53474 Mark, I gleamed the infomation that you requested from the book TROUT Tackle one by Ernest Schwiebert page 87 8 1/2 ft 4 1/4 oz DT5F HDH 8 1/2ft 4 1/2 oz DT6F HCH I hope this helps. Bamboo Bill Mark,
I gleamed the infomation that you requested from the book
TROUT Tackle one by Ernest Schwiebert page 87

8 1/2 ft 4 1/4 oz DT5F HDH
8 1/2ft 4 1/2 oz DT6F HCH

I hope this helps.
Bamboo Bill

]]> By: Mark http://troutunderground.com/2007/03/29/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-53472 Mark Sun, 29 Mar 2009 13:26:24 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/03/29/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-ii/#comment-53472 What is the conversion for rod weight in ounces to fly line weight? I see Phillipson rods advertised in ounces but don't understand the conversion. I am seeking a 5wt 8-1/2 foot rod. What is the conversion for rod weight in ounces to fly line weight? I see Phillipson rods advertised in ounces but don’t understand the conversion. I am seeking a 5wt 8-1/2 foot rod.

]]> By: Tom Chandler http://troutunderground.com/2007/03/29/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-52410 Tom Chandler Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:43:53 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/03/29/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-ii/#comment-52410 The #29 doesn't really mean anything (most believe it's an inspector or production number). What do you want to know? Can't tell you much without more information. The #29 doesn’t really mean anything (most believe it’s an inspector or production number). What do you want to know? Can’t tell you much without more information.

]]> By: dereck http://troutunderground.com/2007/03/29/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-52403 dereck Sat, 24 Jan 2009 05:16:25 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/03/29/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-ii/#comment-52403 I have a pacemaker #29 any info on that? I have a pacemaker #29 any info on that?

]]> By: Tom Chandler http://troutunderground.com/2007/03/29/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-51692 Tom Chandler Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:54:58 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/03/29/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-ii/#comment-51692 Mike: A Dragon? Does that by any chance really read "Paragon?" The Paragon was the cheapest of the Phillipsons, yet it was still a very fishable rod. I'm afraid I haven't kept up with bamboo rod value these days - if it's truly in excellent condition, then perhaps $350-$500? Mike: A Dragon? Does that by any chance really read “Paragon?”

The Paragon was the cheapest of the Phillipsons, yet it was still a very fishable rod. I’m afraid I haven’t kept up with bamboo rod value these days – if it’s truly in excellent condition, then perhaps $350-$500?

]]> By: Mike Lucente http://troutunderground.com/2007/03/29/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-51691 Mike Lucente Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:17:32 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/03/29/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-ii/#comment-51691 I have a Phillipson 3pc, 8 1/2 Dragon slightly used in excellent condition with 2 tips I inherited from my father. Could you please tell me what it may be worth. I have a Phillipson 3pc, 8 1/2 Dragon slightly used in excellent condition with 2 tips
I inherited from my father. Could you please tell me what it may be worth.

]]> By: Bamboo Bill http://troutunderground.com/2007/03/29/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-39265 Bamboo Bill Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:54:47 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/03/29/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-ii/#comment-39265 I have no connection with Ricks Rods however, if your indoubt about the rod I would send it to Rick and get his opinon. He has or did have a very extensive selection of threads that Phillipson used on his rods. I have cast a fair number of the rods in question...indeed good fishing rods. I have no connection with Ricks Rods however,
if your indoubt about the rod I would send it to Rick and get his opinon. He has or did have a very extensive selection of threads that Phillipson used on his rods.

I have cast a fair number of the rods in question…indeed good fishing rods.

]]> By: Tom Chandler http://troutunderground.com/2007/03/29/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-39250 Tom Chandler Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:27:08 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/03/29/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-ii/#comment-39250 I don't have any idea who's building those rods for that company, which also sells canoes, wool clothes, etc. Could be a reputable builder, but nothing rules out the possibility this is a Chinese-made rod you could buy at 1/3 the price. $1900 is a lot for an impregnated bamboo rod -- that puts you into the range of all but the most expensive builders -- so be damned sure they're handing you a very, very good rod and not lot of marketing hype. I don’t have any idea who’s building those rods for that company, which also sells canoes, wool clothes, etc.

Could be a reputable builder, but nothing rules out the possibility this is a Chinese-made rod you could buy at 1/3 the price.

$1900 is a lot for an impregnated bamboo rod — that puts you into the range of all but the most expensive builders — so be damned sure they’re handing you a very, very good rod and not lot of marketing hype.

]]> By: FGN http://troutunderground.com/2007/03/29/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-39249 FGN Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:16:58 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/03/29/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-ii/#comment-39249 Tom - Hopefully this isn't too off topic, but I'm in the market for my first bamboo rod. I have a contact at this company and was wondering if you have ever heard anything about their rods? http://www.justincharles.com/split-bamboo-fly-rod.aspx Thanks in advanced! Tom – Hopefully this isn’t too off topic, but I’m in the market for my first bamboo rod. I have a contact at this company and was wondering if you have ever heard anything about their rods?

http://www.justincharles.com/split-bamboo-fly-rod.aspx

Thanks in advanced!

]]> By: Tom Chandler http://troutunderground.com/2007/03/29/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-25564 Tom Chandler Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:34:11 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/03/29/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-ii/#comment-25564 Sure. If it hasn't been stored correctly there are some potential problems -- cracked varnish, loose ferrules, even dry rot -- but the rod will likely fish just fine. If you can find a local bamboo rod builder, you could have them check it out, but otherwise, I'd say fish the thing. That's what Bill Phillipson built 'em to do. Sure. If it hasn’t been stored correctly there are some potential problems — cracked varnish, loose ferrules, even dry rot — but the rod will likely fish just fine.

If you can find a local bamboo rod builder, you could have them check it out, but otherwise, I’d say fish the thing.

That’s what Bill Phillipson built ‘em to do.

]]> By: dan walton http://troutunderground.com/2007/03/29/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-25534 dan walton Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:47:03 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/03/29/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-ii/#comment-25534 I have a Paragon rod that my father passed along to me that he bought back in 1947 and has not fished with for about 20 years, is it ok to fish with? Thank you.. I have a Paragon rod that my father passed along to me that he bought back in 1947 and has not fished with for about 20 years, is it ok to fish with? Thank you..

]]> By: Tom Chandler http://troutunderground.com/2007/03/29/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-8854 Tom Chandler Wed, 13 Jun 2007 23:49:12 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/03/29/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-ii/#comment-8854 Gary: The number on the Phillipson most likely ID's the inspector (most common thought) or (less likely) the wrapper. For a tip, Google "AJ Thramer." He builds a sort of "generic" tip section for Grangers and Phillipsons. Good luck! Gary: The number on the Phillipson most likely ID’s the inspector (most common thought) or (less likely) the wrapper.

For a tip, Google “AJ Thramer.” He builds a sort of “generic” tip section for Grangers and Phillipsons.

Good luck!

]]> By: Gary Biehn http://troutunderground.com/2007/03/29/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-8852 Gary Biehn Wed, 13 Jun 2007 23:44:16 +0000 http://troutunderground.com/2007/03/29/bury-me-with-my-phillipson-bamboo-fly-rods-part-ii/#comment-8852 Tom- I've injoyed the story and the great information on the Phillipson. I came upon a Phillipson Pacemaker with the number 58 on it. Can you tell me what that means? It's missing the tip section also. Any good sources you can turn me on to ? I am hoping to experience this rod I've read so much about. The website isn't finished yet, but check it out! Thank's Gary Tom- I’ve injoyed the story and the great information on the Phillipson. I came upon a Phillipson Pacemaker with the number 58 on it. Can you tell me what that means? It’s missing the tip section also. Any good sources you can turn me on to ? I am hoping to experience this rod I’ve read so much about. The website isn’t finished yet, but check it out! Thank’s
Gary

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