“Bury Me With My Phillipson Bamboo Fly Rods,” Part II

by Tom Chandler on March 29, 2007 · 21 comments

(Click to read “Bury Me With My Phillipson Bamboo Fly Rods,” Part I)

Some fly rods exert a powerful hold on those who use them, and when a rod marries itself to your casting stroke, only a fool would put it down in the pursuit of new technology or glossier finish.

In truth, fly fishers chose their fly rods for many different reasons, and when you stumble across a series of rods that fish well and come neatly packaged with an interesting background, well… let’s just say I’m a sucker for that kind of thing.

Bamboo Rods

My first bamboo fly rod (going on 15 years from now) was a revelation, but my first Phillipson was a godsend.

In truth, my first cane rod was smooth, but it wasn’t much in the way of an all-around rod.

A unmarked 8’ 5wt of indeterminate manufacture, it was fun to fish but lacked the backbone to set the hook on all but the slowest-reacting trout. God forbid I should try to fish a streamer.

The first Phillipson I cast immediately soured me on the previous rod. Almost as smooth and far more powerful, here was a bamboo rod that felt like a fly rod was supposed to feel, yet it fished – to my purposes – as well as any of the graphite rods I owned.


One of my 8′ 5wt Phillipsons — this one an impregnated model.

Long casts? It did the job on the rivers I fished, especially once I let the rod do the work. And short casts? Nothing clothed in carbon came close.

It was an 8’ 5wt, I fished it a lot, and when I had the chance to buy an 8.5’ 5wt Phillipson, I latched onto it immediately.

Here was a rod with the delicacy to fish #18 BWO dries and high stick dries in pocket water, yet it could cast to any reasonable fishing distance provided the caster wasn’t an impatient brute, lacking in refinement and personal hygiene.

With those two Phillipsons firmly in hand, I started digging into the company’s past, and what I unearthed pretty much sealed the deal.

The Phillipson Story

Bill Phillipson was a Swedish immigrant who started working for the Denver-based Granger rod company in the 1920s.

By all accounts a natural craftsman, he was also an independent thinker with a knack for solving problems.

When Goodwin Granger died in the early 1930s, Phillipson quickly ascended to Operations Manager. It was then he began the series of battles with the company’s office manager that helped define his legend in the rod building industry.

Victory”

Early in his tenure at Granger, Phillipson butted heads with the office manager, a woman whose name I have written down but can’t recall. Both wanted control over the rod operation.

Eventually, the infighting grew so fierce that Goodwin Granger’s window had to step in and settle it. She awarded Phillipson control, and rumor has it he issued the “Victory” model Granger fly rod in celebration.

Michael Sinclair – a bamboo rod historian and fan of Bill Phillipson – said no one could positively confirm the story, but that those close to Phillipson thought it had the ring of truth.

51”

The Granger operation was shut down for WWII. After the war ended, the widow Granger wanted to sell the company rather than reopen it.

Both Bill Phillipson and the Wright-McGill company were in competition to buy the company, with Bill Phillipson offering less cash but a richer percentage of future sales.

The office manager was reported to have said that if Phillipson got the company, it wouldn’t exist five years hence.

Eventually, the company went to Wright-McGill (I’ve also heard this statement attributed to the Widow Granger, but Sinclair said manager, and I trust him), and Phillipson started The Phillipson Rod Company, which quickly grew into a success.

Never forgetting the slight, Phillipson later marked all his 1951 rods with a “51” to commemorate his company’s fifth year in operation. Zing!

Frankly, you can’t buy style like that. You’re born with it.

And if you happen to have a Phillipson with the “51” on it (as I do – a 9′ Pacemaker), you can’t help but look at it and chuckle.

Sell it? Don’t even ask.

A Populist Rod?

Phillipson’s rods are often maligned for their nylon thread wraps, purple glue lines and ingenious plastic or metal reel seats, but it’s important to note that Phillipson never wanted to build works of art.

He built fishing rods, and while their less-refined appearance has kept Phillipson prices within reason (the collectors of the short, ultra-refined eastern-style rods simply paid Phillipsons no mind), they have been “discovered” as of late.

Used Phillipson rods don’t yet approach the prices of the Grangers — most of which were also built under Bill Phillipson’s direction — but prices have been rising.

This is in contrast with Phillipson’s ability to keep his rods priced low, a result of refined manufacturing techniques. The best value in the line was probably the Pacemaker, which carried a $25 price tag during the late 40s and early 50s, though even his highest-quality rod (the tapers were identical, only the quality of the cane and fittings changed) only cost $75.

I’ve seen estimates suggesting Phillipson’s bamboo rod production never rose above 8,000-10,000 rods per year until he started selling some of the premier fiberglass rods of the era, when production rose to the 25,000-30,000 range.


One of the later Phillipson catalog covers, and a picture of Bill himself.

While some found the wraps on his bamboo rods a bit on the gaudy side, I like them.

Others have downplayed the cosmetics of his bakelite and “no rock” metal reel seats — which don’t suggest the “polished by virgins until glossy” refinement of far more expensive rods — but unlike some of those rods, I’ve never had a reel abruptly vacate a Phillipson reel seat.

And his purple glue lines? They exist because the purple glue was simply the best available at the time. Strong and waterproof, the glue allowed Phillipson to impregnate some of his rods with a resin after they’d been glued up (instead of before).

This developed a waterproof seal on the rod, but kept the resin from soaking into the pithy center portion of the rod. As a result, Phillipson’s impregnated rods gained less weight than the Orvis models and fished better as a result.

Phillipson’s Legacy: His Rods

It’s important to note that Phillipson wasn’t simply a machinist with a penchant for making fly rods; he was an expert caster and fisherman.

He set a world fly casting distance record (140 feet, 1934, Altamont CO), and was often seen prowling the banks of the South Platte river until a few years before Alzheimers claimed him in 1987 at the age of 83.

Befitting a Western fly fisher, Phillipson’s best rods were probably his 8′, 8.5′ and 9′ models, but in Part III, I’ll write more about the rods Bill Phillipson left behind, including his fiberglass models.

Until then, see you at the “5” rod rack, Tom Chandler.


A 1949 magazine ad.

(Click to read “Bury Me With My Phillipson Bamboo Fly Rods,” Part III)

(Click to read “Bury Me With My Phillipson Bamboo Fly Rods,” Part I)

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1 overmywaders March 29, 2007 at 5:54 pm

Tom,

I never believed that hype “polished by virgins until glossy”. Most of the Eastern rodmakers were in NY; where did they find the virgins?

Here is a Granger ad from 1939:
http://www.overmywaders.com/images/large/Granger39F&S.jpg
note the prices – $8.50- $75

Here is a W&M ad from 1949:
http://www.overmywaders.com/images/large/W&M49F&S.jpg
note the prices – $20.00 – $100.00

And finally,here is a Phillipson ad from 1949:
http://www.overmywaders.com/images/large/Phillipson49F&S.jpg
note the prices – $19.75 – $75.00
as you said, Phillipson kept his top-end prices down. ($25.00 bought a lot in 1949; it equals $202.28 2006 dollars)

Warmest regards,
overmywaders  

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2 Bruce March 29, 2007 at 6:17 pm

Enjoyed part 2! I think I’ll have to head out to the Deschutes tomorrow with a couple of my Phillipson fishing machines!

Bruce  

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3 Bamboo Addict March 30, 2007 at 4:11 am

Good Morning TC and All,
Now I can’t wait for #3, as alway Tom and outstanding story, and am heading out to the Tying room to see if ether of mine have a 5 on them. See you on the river.
David  

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4 mr.blur March 30, 2007 at 1:55 pm

excellent read.
I’m also eagerly anticipating pt III.  

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5 Bamboo Bill April 19, 2007 at 7:29 am

Nice story very nice indeeed. Never cast a Phillipson that I did not like.  

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6 Gary Biehn June 13, 2007 at 3:44 pm

Tom- I’ve injoyed the story and the great information on the Phillipson. I came upon a Phillipson Pacemaker with the number 58 on it. Can you tell me what that means? It’s missing the tip section also. Any good sources you can turn me on to ? I am hoping to experience this rod I’ve read so much about. The website isn’t finished yet, but check it out! Thank’s
Gary  

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7 Tom Chandler June 13, 2007 at 3:49 pm

Gary: The number on the Phillipson most likely ID’s the inspector (most common thought) or (less likely) the wrapper.

For a tip, Google “AJ Thramer.” He builds a sort of “generic” tip section for Grangers and Phillipsons.

Good luck!  

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8 dan walton November 29, 2007 at 10:47 am

I have a Paragon rod that my father passed along to me that he bought back in 1947 and has not fished with for about 20 years, is it ok to fish with? Thank you..  

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9 Tom Chandler November 29, 2007 at 12:34 pm

Sure. If it hasn’t been stored correctly there are some potential problems — cracked varnish, loose ferrules, even dry rot — but the rod will likely fish just fine.

If you can find a local bamboo rod builder, you could have them check it out, but otherwise, I’d say fish the thing.

That’s what Bill Phillipson built ‘em to do.  

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10 FGN February 26, 2008 at 2:16 pm

Tom – Hopefully this isn’t too off topic, but I’m in the market for my first bamboo rod. I have a contact at this company and was wondering if you have ever heard anything about their rods?

http://www.justincharles.com/split-bamboo-fly-rod.aspx

Thanks in advanced!  

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11 Tom Chandler February 26, 2008 at 2:27 pm

I don’t have any idea who’s building those rods for that company, which also sells canoes, wool clothes, etc.

Could be a reputable builder, but nothing rules out the possibility this is a Chinese-made rod you could buy at 1/3 the price.

$1900 is a lot for an impregnated bamboo rod — that puts you into the range of all but the most expensive builders — so be damned sure they’re handing you a very, very good rod and not lot of marketing hype.  

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12 Bamboo Bill February 26, 2008 at 4:54 pm

I have no connection with Ricks Rods however,
if your indoubt about the rod I would send it to Rick and get his opinon. He has or did have a very extensive selection of threads that Phillipson used on his rods.

I have cast a fair number of the rods in question…indeed good fishing rods.  

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13 Mike Lucente December 2, 2008 at 4:17 pm

I have a Phillipson 3pc, 8 1/2 Dragon slightly used in excellent condition with 2 tips
I inherited from my father. Could you please tell me what it may be worth.  

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14 Tom Chandler December 2, 2008 at 6:54 pm

Mike: A Dragon? Does that by any chance really read “Paragon?”

The Paragon was the cheapest of the Phillipsons, yet it was still a very fishable rod. I’m afraid I haven’t kept up with bamboo rod value these days – if it’s truly in excellent condition, then perhaps $350-$500?  

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15 dereck January 23, 2009 at 9:16 pm

I have a pacemaker #29 any info on that?  

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16 Tom Chandler January 24, 2009 at 8:43 am

The #29 doesn’t really mean anything (most believe it’s an inspector or production number). What do you want to know? Can’t tell you much without more information.  

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17 Mark March 29, 2009 at 5:26 am

What is the conversion for rod weight in ounces to fly line weight? I see Phillipson rods advertised in ounces but don’t understand the conversion. I am seeking a 5wt 8-1/2 foot rod.  

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18 Bamboo Bill March 29, 2009 at 7:10 am

Mark,
I gleamed the infomation that you requested from the book
TROUT Tackle one by Ernest Schwiebert page 87

8 1/2 ft 4 1/4 oz DT5F HDH
8 1/2ft 4 1/2 oz DT6F HCH

I hope this helps.
Bamboo Bill  

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19 Tom Chandler March 29, 2009 at 8:53 am

@BBill: Thanks for stepping in.

@Mark: Bill’s numbers are right. The heavier rod is usually labeled “The Dry Fly Special” – a rod I’d characterize as having a much steeper taper than the “regular” Phillipson 8.5′ rod (which is a 5wt to most folks).

I’ve owned a couple Dry Fly Specials and admire their efficiency, though perhaps not their casting feel. I think they feel a little woody, though not everyone agrees. I will say a windy day is a good day to be holding a Dry Fly Special.  

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20 Richard May 14, 2009 at 8:21 am

I have a Phillipson Pacemaker that needs some TLC… It does not have any other markings on it other than the name. It is an 8′ three piece with an additional tip that is 4″ longer , missing the line guide tip and somewhat split. The butt and second rod section have missing line guides, however, I have them. The reel seat and cork handle are intact but show wear.
Anyone out there that can point me in the direction of a reputable person who can “restore” it to its near original condition?… a price range of what it might cost for a restoration?.. and finally whether or not the cost of restoration might exceed the fair market value of the rod?
Thanks, in advance, for your response(s)…  

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