"When I Die, Bury Me With My Phillipson Bamboo Fly Rods." Part One.

by Tom Chandler on March 20, 2007 · 23 comments

Lately I’ve been looking hard at all the bamboo fly rods in my rod closet, trying to mentally define why I fish them and how I apply value to them–values that often differ markedly from the marketplace.

Then that crafty bunch over at MidCurrent went and excerpted a chapter from Casting a Spell by George Black, a book about craftsmanship and its survival in the face of the industrial revolution.

I found it interest because it paralleled my thoughts about Bill Phillipson’s fly rod company, which tells a similar story about craftsmanship in the face of growing corporatism.

From MidCurrent:

George Black’s fascination with bamboo rod-craft pivots on Eustis Edwards, whose personal history speaks volumes about the survival of craftsmanship in American culture. This excerpt looks at the final disillusioning and yet productive years of Edwards’s life, and at the rods which exemplified his obsession with perfection.

Black focuses on Edwards rods, using the rods and their makers to illustrate the changes rapidly overtaking society post WWI.

I place Bill Phillipson’s rod company in a similar context; his small, individually owned company thrived for years before it was bought in 1972 by a large corporation which–immediately and somewhat inexplicably–folded the company.

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His bamboo trade–like most others–had foundered with the appearance of fiberglass and the bamboo embargo of the cold war years, but unlike so many other production companies, he was innovating and building what were probably the best fiberglass rods available.

I’m sure there’s an answer to be found at the bottom of a spreadsheet in a file cabinet somewhere, but it’s hardly possible to overlook the larger trend at work: the corporatization of business in the USA.

That’s why the George Black excerpt at MidCurrent dovetails so nicely with the post I was already writing in my head.

I love it when the Universe writes my lead for me.

What’s Desirable in Bamboo?

In the weird, overlapping hierarchy that defines “desirability” in modern bamboo fly rod collecting, it’s possible that the Edwards rods were among the best, least-appreciated models–at least until Black’s book was released.

Longtime bamboo rod collectors will be reminded of the release of Michael Sinclair’s “Heddon: The Rod With The Fighting Heart” book.

It had an immediate (and galvanizing) effect on the price of used Heddon rods, which–until the book’s release–crowded the used rod lists at relatively low prices.

Still, the Edwards rods were never as plentiful as the Heddons, and I know I ignored the Edwards creations simply because there weren’t enough of them available to interest me.

Yet, equally true is the fact that the rods I owned and fished weren’t really considered desirable among the majority of collectors.

If I could have afforded it, I might have made an exception for the fishable, consistently excellent Paynes, but the Garrisons, Gillums and others were too rare (and expensive) to even contemplate buying, and the time I spent with their tapers (as represented by modern builders) was underwhelming.

In my case at least, the need to “collect” simply didn’t exist, at least not in the sense that I was looking to assemble (or could afford) a quiver of rods whose makers and tapers would impress when casually dropped in bamboo-savvy company.

Bill Phillipson & His Fly Rods

When I first grew interested in older bamboo rods, I focused on the Western rods, and soon fixated on Bill Phillipson’s creations.

Phillipson was foreman of the Granger shop starting in the mid 1930s and owner the “Phillipson Rod Company” until the early 70s.

It’s likely my interest was fostered by what I learned about Phillipson himself; a sometimes gruff man, he valued function over form, and his goal was to build rods that cast and fished as well as the most expensive models, yet at a price anyone could afford.

It’s likely that tapped into the populist vein that runs through me, and clearly, Phillipson was no huckster.

He was, in fact, an expert caster and a fine fisherman, who right up until his death could be found fishing Colorado’s waters, including the South Platte.

John Gierach cops to sometimes fishing an 8.5′ Phillipson on the South Platte not just because he sometimes ran into Bill Phillipson there, but because the rod’s perfectly suited to fishing that river.

Fishing Rods, Not Toys.

If day-to-day fishability defined collectability, the Phillipsons would occupy a place on the food chain far above many more expensive rods, perhaps only one rung below the vaunted Paynes and one above the currently hot Grangers (most of which were also Bill Phillipson’s children).

Still, though I own an even dozen Phillipson rods, I never became what you’d call a “collector,” and because I like talking to rod builders, I’m wholly interested in what today’s bamboo rod craftsmen are doing in the now century-old bamboo rod trade.

Still, after years of use, a couple of my favorite Phillipsons require some ferrule work, so I need to ship them to a rod repairer (the true downside of bamboo rods).

I fish a couple of the rods often, and wonder if that means I value them so much as fishing tools that I overlook the fact that another Phillipson will never be made.

In fact, the rods fish so well, I could–in a fit of Thoreau-esque simplification–surplus all my other cane and end up a perfectly happy camper (for most trout situations anyway).

Still, let’s face it; I’m not going to do it.

What I am going to do is split this post over a couple days. So tomorrow, more on Phillipson fly rods–the models I actually like to fish.

Click to read Part II of “Bury Me With My Phillipsons.” 

See you at the rod closet, Tom Chandler.

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1 rriver March 20, 2007 at 9:44 am

Interesting post TC. I have almost bought a Phillipson on many occasions, but never pulled the trigger. The “Peerless dry fly special” always sounded intriging.

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2 Kevin March 20, 2007 at 10:15 am

I have a Phillipson Paragon 5wt, I think an 8′6″, which was my grandfather’s, has both tips and is in the original tube in excellent condition. It is my first and only bamboo, a joy to fish, and something I’ve know very little about until this post. Looking forward to hearing more about it in the coming days.

PS: The new regs meant I fished it on a tiny American River trib last weekend for wild bows and a few browns. No trails, no trash, no people, and bear tracks every time I go.  

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3 Tom Chandler March 20, 2007 at 10:20 am

rriver: I’ll go over some of the models in Part 2. They’re wonderful rods — more so when you grok Bill Phillipson’s history.  

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4 Tom Chandler March 20, 2007 at 10:27 am

Or maybe Part 3. I may do Phillipson stories in Part 2.  

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5 overmywaders March 20, 2007 at 4:11 pm

Tom,

Aren’t Phillipson rods an acquired taste? I bought a 7′ Peerless 5wt back in 1992 for my ten year old son. However, being accustomed to the slower (sweeter?) action of F.E. Thomas, Edwards, and other Eastern makers, I moved Dan over to a Thomas instead; believing that the more mellow action might be easier for him. [It didn't matter, he was casting better than me in a week anyway.]

Phillipsons are fast! The cosmetics take some getting accustomed to, as well; the copper colored reelseats make one look for a fly reel in Harvest Gold or Avocado Green.

I certainly admire Bill Phillipson for staying (and probably starving) in the trade for so long. We owe much to Bill P., Bill and Gene Edwards, and their like who kept turning out quality work in the face of an increasingly cost-conscious – above-all-else – consumer attitude. I had the good fortune to live close to Sam Carlson for many years. We sat in his shop many Tuesday nights as he told of the Edwards brothers and old man Edwards. It was a different time. Thankfully, craftsmanship is returning with the high quality available from so many rodmakers today.

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6 Tom Chandler March 20, 2007 at 7:12 pm

Kevin: The Paragon was the lowest-priced Phillipson, but you’re in luck. The low-end Phillipsons offered the same tapers, but lesser real seats and cosmetically less-attractive cane.

Reed: The shorter Phillipsons are the least refined of the lot. My 8′ Premium is assuredly not a fast rod (my 8′ Peerless Impregnated rods are stronger, but still the same medium taper). The 8.5 tapers? I’d hesitate to suggest the tapers were steep, and they respond poorly to being pushed.

As for Phillipson starving, it wasn’t part of the story. He was an innovator in fiberglass rod production (he invented the technique whereby blanks were cured in a pressurized chamber to minimize voids).

I think — unlike so many of the other bamboo rodmakers — Phillipson wasn’t wondering how to survive retirement.  

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7 Bruce March 20, 2007 at 10:04 pm

New to your website. Enjoyed your article on Phillipson rods and I’m waiting for part 2. I own 4 Phillipsons, 8′ Paramount, 7′& a 9′ Premium, and an 8 1/2′ Preferred, and I enjoy them all. Personally I think the Paramount is the nicest looking, its my favorite. IMHO, the Preferred is the “faster” action rod. Havent tried the Peerless though, maybe one of these days I will own one.

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8 chris September 2, 2007 at 5:29 pm

My son was given a 8′5″ or 8′6″ Phillipson Pacemaker three piece (with two tip sections. How can we determine its age and history?
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9 Tom Chandler September 3, 2007 at 4:50 pm

Chris: Without more information, it’s hard to be sure. By the early 50s, Phillipson wasn’t making a whole lot of bamboo fly rods, so odds are your 8′6″ Pacemaker was made between 1946 and 1950.

The Pacemakers were extremely popular rods — they fished wonderfully, but cost next to nothing. Great stuff.  

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10 mike chiechi March 22, 2008 at 7:00 pm

I bought me a pacemaker from ebay about 4 years ago. it really is a buet!  

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11 Sam Lacina July 20, 2008 at 5:19 pm

I have purchase my first Phillipson…8.5 ft Paragon..casts well…50 ft without pushing…The reel seat and grip seem heavy..it would make a long day of fishing…is that typical..Sam  

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12 john September 12, 2008 at 10:28 am

philipson fly rods seem to be great i dont really know to much about fly rods i found the one i have it is a mity-lite w/ a shakespeare wonderspin reel i really had fun cleaning this reel and rod i cant wait to try it out not gonna put any load on it would not want to bust it up i would really just kick myself really hard and probly come home and have my son kick me too ..its a one piece fiberglass if any body knows about mity -lites drop me a email i cant seem to find one anywhere on the internet thats even similar is it a rare rod any help would be great thanks john..  

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13 Mark Stafford March 11, 2009 at 7:46 am

Enjoyed your Phillipson blogs. I was wondering about the Ed M Hunter rods. I have one and the only marking on it are the Ed M Hunter “approved”. It has a reelseat with the starburst on the end and is varnished but that is all. What level of regular Phillipson rod are these rods equal to in taper and line weight?

Any reply with information on the Hunter rods would be appreciated.  

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14 SaBinh May 8, 2009 at 7:51 am

i love bamboo and it’s great to see it in your work  

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15 Chris July 27, 2009 at 1:14 pm

i just found and picked up a phillipson paragon fly rod 9 ft 3 pc 4 or 5 wt# just want to know what it is worth its in very good condition  

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16 Tom Chandler July 27, 2009 at 1:47 pm

Chris: i just found and picked up a phillipson paragon fly rod 9 ft 3 pc 4 or 5 wt# just want to know what it is worth its in very good condition

I doubt it’s a 4 or 5 wt. The 9′ Phillipsons usually cast 6 or 7 wt lines, and they’re not all that valuable – probably $250-$400 (if truly in very good condition, which few are).  

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17 Irvin R. Daubert August 14, 2009 at 1:05 pm

Have a pacemaker bamboo fly rod, 8′4 1/2″ long, 4 1/2 oz., heh line.
Rod has never, to my knowledge, has ever been used. However noticed small nicks on rod. Also has extra tip section. Can you give me an idea as to its worth. Have been offered $200.00.

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18 Tom Chandler August 14, 2009 at 1:18 pm

Here’s the problem. There is no rod between 8.5′ and 8′ long, so you’re either mis-measuring yours, or the tip is down 1.75″, or a ferrule’s been re-set.

None of those quite square with the “never been used.”

That said, an 8.5′ long, near-mint 8.5′ Pacemaker (4.5 oz) is worth way more than $200. If it’s really in near-mint condition, probably more like $450-$600.

If both tips are short, the varnish has some problems, and there’s a ferrule issue, then $200 is probably fair.

I hesitate to say much more because I’ve seen rods that were described as “never been fished” before that were pretty hammered.

Good luck.  

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19 Peter D November 5, 2009 at 2:13 pm

I certainly agree with the desire to not use and industrial rod. Sure, they work great. What a lot of people do not realize is they wear out just like bamboo, break like bamboo, now cost like bamboo. It is a system of line, reel, and rod integrated to a great fly that mkes the optimum. I fish with a John Betts. He dsigned the fly you are porbably using. John has a closet filled with Paynes, Garrisons, Gillums, all the best bamboo rods. He made his own rod, reel, and line. Yeah, he makes the line to fit the combo. Same with the reel. How may guys do you know do that. Lefty even aint that good. John taught me how to make all the gear. I am making my own synthetic line like he taught now, better than Cortland, 3m, what ever, cast better than silk, tough as nails. My daughter will get thsi line when I am dead. Oh, you didn’t knwo there is built-in obsolescence in your equipment! So I will stay with his system. Material cost; rod 19$, reel 14$, line 11$.  

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20 Louis Longo December 5, 2009 at 10:58 am

I have a Phillipson Fly Rod. The model # is P90 GBG -5oz. Also says Ebonite Blank. Comes with the original steel tube. The rod is in very good condition. The ferrules seem to be brass and the windings are all wound tight. The cork handle is very good. It has a butterscotch color and distict pattern to the material. The rod is 9′ long. Could you give me some info to its value and history. This rod was found in my grandfathers attic. I am 71 and don’t ever remember him fishing. Thank you for you reply. Louis Longo  

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21 Louis Longo January 1, 2010 at 10:58 am

Louis Longo: I have a Phillipson Fly Rod. The model # is P90 GBG -5oz. Also says Ebonite Blank. Comes with the original steel tube. The rod is in very good condition. The ferrules seem to be brass and the windings are all wound tight. The cork handle is very good. It has a butterscotch color and distict pattern to the material. The rod is 9′ long. Could you give me some info to its value and history. This rod was found in my grandfathers attic. I am 71 and don’t ever remember him fishing. Thank you for you reply. Louis Longo  (Quote)

  

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22 Tom Chandler January 2, 2010 at 10:38 am

Louis, I tried to reply to your earlier email, but you left the wrong email address.

In essence, this is not an “ebonite” but probably an “eponite” fiberglass rod. The eponite rods were often nice, though I’m not conversant with the current values of them. You’d do well to check on eBay or on the fiberglass fly rod board: http://fiberglassflyrodders.yuku.com/  

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