I’ve long used studded felts on the Upper Sac; they provided good grip on most surfaces, but my constant hiking along the sharp-rocked beds of the railroad tracks quickly wore away the felt around the studs.
After a few months, I was left with spiked wading boots that skated on smooth surfaces, grated noisily on rounded rocks, and drove me to distraction.
Regular felt was an option, but one that lacked longevity on the sharp railroad bed rocks. I needed another option.
Rubber Sole
Grippy rubber soles have been around for a few years, but my first experience wasn’t stellar. I’d tried a pair of plain rubber Aqua Stealths, but found them sadly wanting on algae-coated cobbles.
Still, early in the year, local guide Steve Bertrand told me his studded rubber soles didn’t grip as well as the felt, but they’d lasted the better part of two seasons.
Aha! Longevity.
After weighing the costs of re-soling, I bought a pair of studded rubber Weinbrenners, figuring they’d make tolerable winter boots even if they weren’t suited for everyday use (hedging your bet is a useful rationalization when buying fishing gear).
The testing began.
Seventy Percenters
After five months of steady use, the soles are still in excellent shape. I’d rate them excellent for longevity (I’ll know more in a couple years).
The constantly evolving Weinbrenner uppers used to be a mixed bag, but they’ve done away with many of the stitching problems I experienced on my earlier Weinbrenners.
The wading itself? It’s a mix. On dry steamside rock they’re outstanding – way better than studded felt.
On in-stream rocks with little or no slime, they were good.
On rounded, slimed covered rocks they were… well, let’s say they had 70% the grip of studded felts.
I haven’t fallen yet, but hitting the “greased cobble” stretches of the river without a wading staff is a non-starter. Still, I’m wearing them every day and not regretting it. So far, so good.
Break-in Period
Bob Grace of the Ted Fay Fly Shop suggested they’d grip better once the edges wore away a bit and sole became more rounded.
I haven’t experienced that, but then, my soles don’t exhibit much wear. Therein lies the charm. These should last a long time – probably as long as a pair of studded felts and one or two re-sole jobs.
That’s attractive because I like to fish good, reliable gear – stuff that’s ready to go without a lot of babying or repair.
Weighing the Pros and Cons
Everything is a compromise. For a cheap bastard like myself, the compromises here seem acceptable. In addition to the everyday longevity, I get a boot that grips very well when dry rock hopping. And the soles are denser, more protective, and more comfortable than felt while hiking.
They also seem to be laterally stiffer than felts, protecting my feet from wedging and torqueing.
Finally, studded rubber doesn’t add several inches of ice to your boots when hiking through the snow – a real downer when fishing felts in the winter.
Buy, or Not?
If I fished the Pit River exclusively, I’d think twice about these boots, probably going with studded felt instead. If I fished small streams, spring creeks or other easy wading rivers, they’d be a no-brainer.
If you hike extensively in wading boots – especially over sharp rocks – you’d have to consider studded rubber soles.
Those who often fish from drift boats will find the studs don’t mar boat surfaces as badly as most studded felts (probably because the studs don’t protrude as far from the sole).
For everyday use on the Upper Sacramento River? I’ve been wearing mine almost exclusively this season, and I have no plans to switch back.
I’m giving up some grip – and that’s not a fun thought – but I’m gaining other tangible benefits (like avoiding re-soling the things every 6-9 months).
For their longevity, dryland performance and passable wet performance, the Underground gives the Weinbrenner studded rubber soled wading boots 3.5 roll casts (out of a possible 5).
Specifics
Weinbrenner’s studded rubber wading boot costs $137. Simms also makes a studded rubber boot, though be prepared to pay the Simms premium price ($160). Others make studded rubber boots, and because it’s footwear, I’d check with my retailer about trying some one.
The Weinbrenner “fit” is very roomy, and most people report no problems adding orthotics or insoles to the boots (a good idea if you have a narrow or low volume foot).
The Simms are also roomy, though with more of a hiking boot fit. For those that care, the Weinbrenners are made in the USA, while the Simms are produced overseas.
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I was tempted to try the rubber soles, but I read they didn’t hold as well as felt spiked.
I fish about 200 days a year, and wade alot of fast heavy water. I have never had a pair of boots last 12 months (I think 10 was about the record). If I could get a year out of a pair of boots I would be very happy. I clean and dry my boots after every trip.
Currently I am using Simms L2 felt sole studded with about two months on them. So far, so good.
I have not heard of the Weinbrenners. I will have to check them out.
- rriver
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Something like the Korkers convertible wading boots I use might also be an option for those hiking a considerable distance before fishing. I use the regular rubber soles when hiking and switch to felt for fishing (they have studded felt soles as well). I’ve had mine for two years and they’re still holding up well, but I don’t get to fish as nearly as much as many of you guys. I suspect 200 fishing days a year would do them in pretty quickly. Also sometimes it’s aggravating to carry the extra soles, plus a pair of neoprene socks to keep your feet dry if you plan to hike back out without wearing your waders.
hawgdaddy
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@rriver: Take a look at the Weinbrenners (Bob Grace at the Ted Fay Fly shop carries them) and see if they fit your feet. They’re well constructed.
Dave Roberts has been fishing the Simms studded Aqua-Stealth soles on the Rogue for many months now (the studs are more aggressive on the Simms than the Weinbrenner) and is real happy with them.
@Hawgdaddy: I own a pair of the convertible Korkers and while I like the interchangeable soles, the lack of ankle support cause me to dislike the boots. In fact, they’re sitting in the garage and I haven’t yet figured out what to do with them.
Changing soles is an interesting idea, but I’m a lazy human being, and so I’m just going to hike in the studded rubber soles and leave it at that… 8-)
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I have a couple pairs of Simms studded Aqua-Stealth boots and like them. Picked up the second pair dirt cheap from your new sponser this Spring. Immediately before the current boots I had a pair of Beans with the same bottoms and liked them, too. The Simms just fit me better.
In addition to gripping just fine (wading IS easier here than in NorCal)they clean up and DRY much better than felt- a real consideration in our whirling diseased world.
Roberts lets you wear studs in his precious tunnel hull?
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I have a pair of the Korkers Wetlands Convertables and like them a lot. Great boots for fishing the Upper Sac since you use the rubber soles for hiking the tracks, then change soles and put on the studded felts right before you get in the river.
The first pair of Korkers Wetlands did not hold up well and lasted just one season. This was due to quality control issues that plagued these boots, and the felt soles (including the studded ones) for a while after they first hit the scene.
They’ve since resolved these issues and the current pair I bought last summer to replace the old pair have been working great with no problems.
I wouldn’t use them if I were fishing the Pit exclusively since that river would do them in pretty fast. In fact last fall I bought a pair of the Simms Studded Freestone Boots for heavy duty wading on the Pit and Klamath Rivers so I’m set for wading boots for the foreseeable future ;-)
Brian
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Tom, Thanks for the review. I’ll have to give the Weinbrenner studded rubber soled boots some thought, particularly for snowy conditions. I’ve been wearing Weinbrenner studded felts for some time. I really like the stacked heel. In my experience boots with a continuous ramped felt sole tend to turn into skis on smooth mossy rocks under water and muddy or wet grassy slops out of the water. It doesn’t sound like this is a problem with the rubber soles. I also appreciate the fact that the boots fit the same when wet and dry. I tried a pair of Simms Guide boots several years ago and they shrank when dry and had to be pre-soaked in order to fit correctly. What a pain.
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I am on my second pair of Korkers, though I like the Simms fit better. My first pair wore through the sides, and I had delamination problems with the studded felt soles. I like them though and purchased another pair. To Korkers credit, they sent me 4 replacement soles for the them after I called there customer service to complain about the sole problems.
Sometimes waders and shoes don’t match up as well as you would like. Orvis Pro Guide waders have a little thicker foot than Simms, for instance. It causes a one size difference in the boots.
- rriver
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Hi everyone,
I was looking for reviews regarding aquastealth sole and found this page.
I’ve been using a pair of Simms Guide boots with felt sole for a few years now and I’m very happy with them. Their shape is very well designed. Yes they do shrink/bend a bit when dry but you can apply snow seal on them to keep them soft. Before you do that use Aquaseal to cover the seams against the rocks. Aquaseal it’s flexible even after it dries out. They will hold longer.
Based on the reviews here and my experience, my next pair will be the same: Simms Guide felt sole.
Tight lines
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I am searching for preferabbly flexible rubber boots (about 11″ tall?) with a studded bottom for ice grip … found this so far … do they make such a critter? thought you might know. I live at 5,000 feet and it is so cold this year, all my paths for feeding are SOLID slippery ice. I am not a young chicken and would not like to fall … thinking of ways to superglue something to the bottom of rubber boots, it is that bad .. HELP .. Mabel
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Mabel: Haven’t heard of anything, and wading boots don’t really fit the bill. Have you considered putting the rubberized Yak Trax “crampons” on an existing pair of boots?
They provide excellent grip even on ice, and can be removed when no longer needed. Plus they’re inexpensive — typically less than $20.
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I want to buy a pair of SIMMS Studded Aquastealth wading boots. Rivershed or the lighter L2 is the option. Would prefer the lighter weight boot but cannot get access to an L2 to try the fit. Rivershed size 9 good fit. Anyone out there with an average width foot had experience with the narrower L2 of similar size? Can’t afford to waste $129 plus on a misfit!
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Roger: I’ve been a Weinbrenner guy for years, so can’t help with the Simms fit. Maybe a reader can.
Good luck!
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I bought a pair of Simms L2s and they fit in length but after wearing them for one trip they made my feet cramp up. They are a narrow fit. I bought the Korkers Streamborn which were a lot wider and much more comfortable.
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Fit is an overlooked aspect in wading boots, but it’s hard to try on a lot if your local fly shop doesn’t have a bunch.
My problem with the Korkers was the lack of support in the upper. You having problems with that?
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